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  • Malyyzero Offline
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    Malyyzero
    wrote on last edited by Malyyzero
    #1

    This is a post to spread awareness and hopefully to show Plutonium staff about Kiels, the owner of ZTAVERN about what he has been doing to the Playerbase and Donators to his servers.

    Around the morning of the 29th (As this post is being made) Kiels started banning random people in the discord server and the game. The people getting banned were specifically donators to the game, people who had give him money ranging from 20$ up to 300$. Screenshots below showing how he treats his playerbase:
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    I am simply making this post to spread awareness and hopefully get him BANNED from Plutonium. As someone who personally gave this guy over 100$, this is really heartbreaking and I feel quite annoyed that I have been banned from his servers just because I'm "old gen". I have put over 100 hours of time into these servers and I am frankly quite annoyed.

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    • freak_x1 Offline
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      freak_x1
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      #2

      I can vouch, along with 30 other people

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      • Blaze The Cats Offline
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        Blaze The Cats
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        we all can vouch

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        • popdroplockroll Offline
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          popdroplockroll
          wrote on last edited by popdroplockroll
          #4

          He once at some point was a good owner and friend, sadly now he's a guy who ruined every bit of good that server had, and most of all, made me hate plutonium
          Discord: popdroplockroll

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          • MilWRLD Offline
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            MilWRLD
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            #5

            its truly sad to see what has happened to z-tavern. but its good to see people are finally waking up to kiels bullshit

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            • a085 Offline
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              a085
              Contributor
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              #6

              Dirty scammer

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              • Steven Offline
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                Steven
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                #7

                Eizekiels want to explain?

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                • iOwnaBurnedA6 Offline
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                  iOwnaBurnedA6
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  he is a drunk scammer

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                  • a085 Offline
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                    a085
                    Contributor
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Business is business I guess he likes to make money taking donations then banning

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                    • jet0_ Offline
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                      jet0_
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                      #10

                      We all can vouch , also he made rules about not swearing guess what? He broke em first and also we can vouch for everything. Lets not forget the community who cared the most about this server reported bugs and so many other things that to this day arent still fixed and he kept refusing and ofc let to this that banned most players. Truly a big shame on what he did

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                      • Blaze The Cats Offline
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                        Blaze The Cats
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                        #11

                        personnaly gave him more than 200 euros, did a guide for his gamemode, personnaly took time off to help him report bug just for him to ask 50 euros to make an easier trade commands, he should be ashame of himself

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                        • Blaze The Cats Blaze The Cats

                          personnaly gave him more than 200 euros, did a guide for his gamemode, personnaly took time off to help him report bug just for him to ask 50 euros to make an easier trade commands, he should be ashame of himself

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                          MilWRLD
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          Blaze the cat you should have been smarter than that. keils always was a snake

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                          • Malyyzero Offline
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                            Malyyzero
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                            #13

                            MORE SCREENSHOTS FROM SCAMMED VICTIMS: image.png
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                            • jet0_ Offline
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                              jet0_
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                              #14

                              yup as u see i was in his target list to ban, tells u smth off about this behaviour

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                              • Resxt Offline
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                                Resxt
                                Plutonium Staff
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                That's what happens when you give a lot of power and money to anyone
                                Donating 20$ and more to people hosting the same 4 zombie maps you've known for 10 years just because they have a bank and colored shit is crazy and obviously leads to low quality stuff like this and him seeing his donators as low quality

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                                • Resxt Resxt

                                  That's what happens when you give a lot of power and money to anyone
                                  Donating 20$ and more to people hosting the same 4 zombie maps you've known for 10 years just because they have a bank and colored shit is crazy and obviously leads to low quality stuff like this and him seeing his donators as low quality

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                                  popdroplockroll
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Resxt yep, but these types of owners sadly ruin your guys amazing product

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                                  • Xerxes Offline
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                                    Xerxes
                                    Plutonium Staff
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    Those kind of owners would fuck off after 2 months max if you, the players, would not play on their servers.

                                    But there are literally players instantly disconnecting if the servers don't run the same three shitty copy-pasted scripts.

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                                    • DJseanyB Offline
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                                      DJseanyB
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                                      #18

                                      I mean $300 for a rank that gives you stuff that others already have is a bit...

                                      I will say ztav has more to offer then literally any other server x3

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                                      • Eldor Offline
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                                        Eldor
                                        Plutonium Admin
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        We don't have very strict rules on what people can and can't do within their own communities, and this drama seems to be largely concentrated outside our core community. With that said, we don't want assholes that ruin the fun for others around either, so we'll take a closer look at this.

                                        What you could do meanwhile, is to chargeback or open disputes for the payments you've sent them (provided it wasn't too long ago), if they indeed have defrauded you.

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                                        • Eldor Eldor

                                          We don't have very strict rules on what people can and can't do within their own communities, and this drama seems to be largely concentrated outside our core community. With that said, we don't want assholes that ruin the fun for others around either, so we'll take a closer look at this.

                                          What you could do meanwhile, is to chargeback or open disputes for the payments you've sent them (provided it wasn't too long ago), if they indeed have defrauded you.

                                          Malyyzero Offline
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                                          Malyyzero
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          Eldor From the looks of it, he's waited until months have passed so no chargebacks can be made. Everyone vouching in this post has been kicked because they're older supporters (from 5 months to 1 year.) So I believe any chance at money back is quite hopeless.

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