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Those kind of owners would fuck off after 2 months max if you, the players, would not play on their servers.
But there are literally players instantly disconnecting if the servers don't run the same three shitty copy-pasted scripts.
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I mean $300 for a rank that gives you stuff that others already have is a bit...
I will say ztav has more to offer then literally any other server x3
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We don't have very strict rules on what people can and can't do within their own communities, and this drama seems to be largely concentrated outside our core community. With that said, we don't want assholes that ruin the fun for others around either, so we'll take a closer look at this.
What you could do meanwhile, is to chargeback or open disputes for the payments you've sent them (provided it wasn't too long ago), if they indeed have defrauded you.
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We don't have very strict rules on what people can and can't do within their own communities, and this drama seems to be largely concentrated outside our core community. With that said, we don't want assholes that ruin the fun for others around either, so we'll take a closer look at this.
What you could do meanwhile, is to chargeback or open disputes for the payments you've sent them (provided it wasn't too long ago), if they indeed have defrauded you.
Eldor From the looks of it, he's waited until months have passed so no chargebacks can be made. Everyone vouching in this post has been kicked because they're older supporters (from 5 months to 1 year.) So I believe any chance at money back is quite hopeless.
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Eldor From the looks of it, he's waited until months have passed so no chargebacks can be made. Everyone vouching in this post has been kicked because they're older supporters (from 5 months to 1 year.) So I believe any chance at money back is quite hopeless.
Malyyz said in Kiels / Eizekiels: ZTAVERN owner and Serial Scammer:
Eldor From the looks of it, he's waited until months have passed so no chargebacks can be made. Everyone vouching in this post has been kicked because they're older supporters (from 5 months to 1 year.) So I believe any chance at money back is quite hopeless.
I used to be a fuckin admin, and I got treated like shite for doing good
Discord if needed:
popdroplockroll
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I'm vouching because same
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Kiels, Z-Tavern owner
Since you guys like to waste my time so much and got plutonium staff involved,
I will explain the situation :-The 10 persons I have banned yesterday (Most complaining here) are discord banned and not banned from my servers
- Purchased Z-Tavern items are still available to all of them
- All purchase are optionals and terms of agreement are accepted before any purchase
- My staff is made out of benelovent persons
Tldr for the rebellion alliance :
- Z-Tavern is changing for the greater goods, whether you like it or not, it's my servers and my decisions, move on with your life
Also, play one of my 4 unique gamemodes before dissing my work and you will see what a year of serious coding can do to bo2
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Kiels, Z-Tavern owner
Since you guys like to waste my time so much and got plutonium staff involved,
I will explain the situation :-The 10 persons I have banned yesterday (Most complaining here) are discord banned and not banned from my servers
- Purchased Z-Tavern items are still available to all of them
- All purchase are optionals and terms of agreement are accepted before any purchase
- My staff is made out of benelovent persons
Tldr for the rebellion alliance :
- Z-Tavern is changing for the greater goods, whether you like it or not, it's my servers and my decisions, move on with your life
Also, play one of my 4 unique gamemodes before dissing my work and you will see what a year of serious coding can do to bo2
Eizekiels "greater good" (removes people who donated tons, pisses off his own staff and community, supports Pluto's biggest asshole, and more it would take a day to name)
Good job at messing over your community -
Reflecting on past events, it’s evident that signs indicating potential issues were present from the outset. However, many of us, myself included, may have overlooked or downplayed these indicators in the pursuit of optimism and thought it was a one off.
However , as time went by, his red flags started to appear more , and Kiels’s true nature was exposed, revealing a reality where all his actions were for his own personal gain and not for the welfare of his fellow community members that have contributed a lot to his servers. -
Kiels, Z-Tavern owner
Since you guys like to waste my time so much and got plutonium staff involved,
I will explain the situation :-The 10 persons I have banned yesterday (Most complaining here) are discord banned and not banned from my servers
- Purchased Z-Tavern items are still available to all of them
- All purchase are optionals and terms of agreement are accepted before any purchase
- My staff is made out of benelovent persons
Tldr for the rebellion alliance :
- Z-Tavern is changing for the greater goods, whether you like it or not, it's my servers and my decisions, move on with your life
Also, play one of my 4 unique gamemodes before dissing my work and you will see what a year of serious coding can do to bo2
Eizekiels Still a fat L on your behalf please learn some basic common courtesy and not treat people who pay for your addiction with such massive amounts of disrespect.
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kiels u beat ur wife and kids be quiet u also like miners
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Average French
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Kiels, Z-Tavern owner
Since you guys like to waste my time so much and got plutonium staff involved,
I will explain the situation :-The 10 persons I have banned yesterday (Most complaining here) are discord banned and not banned from my servers
- Purchased Z-Tavern items are still available to all of them
- All purchase are optionals and terms of agreement are accepted before any purchase
- My staff is made out of benelovent persons
Tldr for the rebellion alliance :
- Z-Tavern is changing for the greater goods, whether you like it or not, it's my servers and my decisions, move on with your life
Also, play one of my 4 unique gamemodes before dissing my work and you will see what a year of serious coding can do to bo2
Eizekiels You banned you most loyal admin because he check marked a message disagreeing with your scummy business practises, 50 Euro to fix a bug you should've fixed anyway is ridiculous. The shop was only the first of your impulsive decision, you have not made a single change with the community in mind ever since, only money, and removed every single person who disagreed with you from your community unfairly.
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Kiels, Z-Tavern owner
Since you guys like to waste my time so much and got plutonium staff involved,
I will explain the situation :-The 10 persons I have banned yesterday (Most complaining here) are discord banned and not banned from my servers
- Purchased Z-Tavern items are still available to all of them
- All purchase are optionals and terms of agreement are accepted before any purchase
- My staff is made out of benelovent persons
Tldr for the rebellion alliance :
- Z-Tavern is changing for the greater goods, whether you like it or not, it's my servers and my decisions, move on with your life
Also, play one of my 4 unique gamemodes before dissing my work and you will see what a year of serious coding can do to bo2
Eizekiels You banned 10 people for disagreeing your business shit. I saw it all, you banned and used your TWO of the most valued in the staff members. All you care about is money, some members can't pay or buy shit. But banning someone for disagreeing your opinion is crazy like you demoted one of the staff member because he reacted checkmark a message about business practices. You banned one of your staff member for no reason because of business. Not only you created chaos but you created corruption. You finally showed your true colors.
That's my reason for leaving the ztavern server cuz you disagree with your community. You don't deserve a platform like plutonium, you changed the shop SO MUCH. You wanted people to pay you 300 euro for a bundle that isn't valuable. I hope you get banned for what have you done.
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Eizekiels You banned 10 people for disagreeing your business shit. I saw it all, you banned and used your TWO of the most valued in the staff members. All you care about is money, some members can't pay or buy shit. But banning someone for disagreeing your opinion is crazy like you demoted one of the staff member because he reacted checkmark a message about business practices. You banned one of your staff member for no reason because of business. Not only you created chaos but you created corruption. You finally showed your true colors.
That's my reason for leaving the ztavern server cuz you disagree with your community. You don't deserve a platform like plutonium, you changed the shop SO MUCH. You wanted people to pay you 300 euro for a bundle that isn't valuable. I hope you get banned for what have you done.
ksaOfficial bruh I almost had a heart attack from stress and lack of sleep because of this goofy ahh server
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ksaOfficial bruh I almost had a heart attack from stress and lack of sleep because of this goofy ahh server
popdroplockroll you always getting injured i stg
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Last few screenshots I'll post on the matter.
Thank you all for the support and transparency with the situation
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kiels after you announced the free to play update at the start of this year people were thrilled to play this wasn't ever your main source of income and the community was fine with paying and supporting where they could but you misled the community with false promises. as someone who deeply respected and wanted to learn from all of your coding and creations this hurts me that you would throw everyone away for a few dollars. blaze fana cloudy emp luffy twinkle sparkle moon and all the other amazing staff have worked their ass of for you and supported you and the server so much and for you to just toss it out the fucking window is disgusting ztav was a lovely place for zombie fans and now its turned into a memory for us. also another picture of kiels banning for no reason
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Kiels, Z-Tavern owner
Since you guys like to waste my time so much and got plutonium staff involved,
I will explain the situation :-The 10 persons I have banned yesterday (Most complaining here) are discord banned and not banned from my servers
- Purchased Z-Tavern items are still available to all of them
- All purchase are optionals and terms of agreement are accepted before any purchase
- My staff is made out of benelovent persons
Tldr for the rebellion alliance :
- Z-Tavern is changing for the greater goods, whether you like it or not, it's my servers and my decisions, move on with your life
Also, play one of my 4 unique gamemodes before dissing my work and you will see what a year of serious coding can do to bo2
After further consideration, we've decided to temporarily ban the "Z-TAVERN" servers for a duration of 2 weeks effective immediately. We do not appreciate people monetizing ours (and others) efforts and goodwill like this. No further "rent seeking" or similar behavior will be tolerated, do better or face the consequences. Recouping server expenses is one thing, trying to turn it into a "business" is not.
Eizekiels You've caused trouble before, consider this your final warning.
