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god damn, this is some expensive ass prices for a server, what is your server cost? a million dollars?
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If you decided to give this man money and got banned then I hope this a good lesson.
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This is everything having to relate to his money hungry stuff
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heres one extra
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Kiels, Z-Tavern owner
Since you guys like to waste my time so much and got plutonium staff involved,
I will explain the situation :-The 10 persons I have banned yesterday (Most complaining here) are discord banned and not banned from my servers
- Purchased Z-Tavern items are still available to all of them
- All purchase are optionals and terms of agreement are accepted before any purchase
- My staff is made out of benelovent persons
Tldr for the rebellion alliance :
- Z-Tavern is changing for the greater goods, whether you like it or not, it's my servers and my decisions, move on with your life
Also, play one of my 4 unique gamemodes before dissing my work and you will see what a year of serious coding can do to bo2
Eizekiels I thought you had reasons for banning staff members but were these your reasonings? Because someone checkmarked your message? Crazy. Time to find a new server to play on I guess
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Eizekiels I thought you had reasons for banning staff members but were these your reasonings? Because someone checkmarked your message? Crazy. Time to find a new server to play on I guess
Ultrabars Same!
and to think I was justifying his absurd 50$ donation for a cmd feature.
he seemed like a nice guy back when i still played bo2.
and last i heard that he removed the shop and was gonna keep the server running on donations.
I thought it was justifed to ask for donations for a community run service.
but that aint no community run service no more when the owner clearly doesnt give a sht about his community.
I hope that now it's clear that anyone else that applies for staff or voluntarily donates a cent to this man, clearly needs their head examined.TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR WHOEVER APPLIES FOR STAFF ROLE IS GONNA GET SUCKERED FOR FREE HELP
Staff dont even get an advantage in return to justify taking care of the community that kiels obviously doesnt give a sht about
the discounts on the shop items is a fkn joke.
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obviously activision is worse, but this is a prime example of what cod nowadays is looking like... just a fucking quick cash grab in manipulation people/player retention. Theres no passion, no creativity drive in making the games good again within the studio, everythings rushed, ignoring the community, pushing audiences apart. All for what, just to fucking make money? Such hysterical hypocrisy... Dumb hypocrisy at its finest.
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Hello everybody,
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This proof would serve me for the complaint that I would obviously make against this bastard who unfairly banned people permanently without any reason for reasons of DDOS attacks + making defamation without solid proof, Trying to use the image to make a business without any prior agreement from the people concerned to make a scam on several people in order to enrich its projects without putting alerts in relation to it. Everything goes against the grain of using all the obvious evidence to find your bastards with the police that I myself would consider contacting them in order to file complaints. If you have a lot of evidence that can be used against Kiels, don't hesitate to send it to me on Discord.
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PS: My DM's are opened on discord -> lkartorz01
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This is a post to spread awareness and hopefully to show Plutonium staff about Kiels, the owner of ZTAVERN about what he has been doing to the Playerbase and Donators to his servers.
Around the morning of the 29th (As this post is being made) Kiels started banning random people in the discord server and the game. The people getting banned were specifically donators to the game, people who had give him money ranging from 20$ up to 300$. Screenshots below showing how he treats his playerbase:
I am simply making this post to spread awareness and hopefully get him BANNED from Plutonium. As someone who personally gave this guy over 100$, this is really heartbreaking and I feel quite annoyed that I have been banned from his servers just because I'm "old gen". I have put over 100 hours of time into these servers and I am frankly quite annoyed.
Malyyz I don't understand why so many people are returning their jackets following this incident when since the shop was set up no one has complained about it and above all I admired Kiels' creations, he made Z-TAVERN the one of the best bo2 plutonium servers, you were all hyped and now you want to see it sink, you are mixing everything up and it's a shame! The start of the problem is poor communication between Kiels and the staff, the server and the coining system are not the causes of what is currently happening with the server, I started ZTAVERN and all the skills can only be unlocked for free except these are players who proposed to Kiels to set up a shop to access skills, but this is not jne fatality! we can still earn these skills for free and those who WANT can buy them.
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Malyyz I don't understand why so many people are returning their jackets following this incident when since the shop was set up no one has complained about it and above all I admired Kiels' creations, he made Z-TAVERN the one of the best bo2 plutonium servers, you were all hyped and now you want to see it sink, you are mixing everything up and it's a shame! The start of the problem is poor communication between Kiels and the staff, the server and the coining system are not the causes of what is currently happening with the server, I started ZTAVERN and all the skills can only be unlocked for free except these are players who proposed to Kiels to set up a shop to access skills, but this is not jne fatality! we can still earn these skills for free and those who WANT can buy them.
Keenta its being shut down cause of what kiels did, did you not read what everyone else has sai up above?
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After further consideration, we've decided to temporarily ban the "Z-TAVERN" servers for a duration of 2 weeks effective immediately. We do not appreciate people monetizing ours (and others) efforts and goodwill like this. No further "rent seeking" or similar behavior will be tolerated, do better or face the consequences. Recouping server expenses is one thing, trying to turn it into a "business" is not.
Eizekiels You've caused trouble before, consider this your final warning.
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Malyyz I don't understand why so many people are returning their jackets following this incident when since the shop was set up no one has complained about it and above all I admired Kiels' creations, he made Z-TAVERN the one of the best bo2 plutonium servers, you were all hyped and now you want to see it sink, you are mixing everything up and it's a shame! The start of the problem is poor communication between Kiels and the staff, the server and the coining system are not the causes of what is currently happening with the server, I started ZTAVERN and all the skills can only be unlocked for free except these are players who proposed to Kiels to set up a shop to access skills, but this is not jne fatality! we can still earn these skills for free and those who WANT can buy them.
Keenta just because the guy did 4 good gamemode ( 2 of them have been crashing for mounth) doesn't mean he has the right to squeeze every dime out of us and treating everyone like shit, your community should come first and it's clearly not the case here
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So much overreact here, why argue on chat when u can just 1v1 grief???
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Nakero of all the language you could have chosen, you chose to speak in based
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Nakero of all the language you could have chosen, you chose to speak in based
Blaze the cat said in Kiels / Eizekiels: ZTAVERN owner and Serial Scammer:
Nakero of all the language you could have chosen, you chose to speak in based
yeah bro its like:
-"oh no! the owner of a big pluto server banned ppl unfairly"
-"oh shit dude this can't be true!"-"oh no, Malyyz making a giga thread on plutonium forum with screenshots and so much fukng text just to complain"
-"damn bro that's crazy, who would've guessed?" -
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I didn't even know this level of monetization existed on plutonium servers, thats just insane
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Some of these servers have made $20k+
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Blaze the cat said in Kiels / Eizekiels: ZTAVERN owner and Serial Scammer:
Nakero of all the language you could have chosen, you chose to speak in based
yeah bro its like:
-"oh no! the owner of a big pluto server banned ppl unfairly"
-"oh shit dude this can't be true!"-"oh no, Malyyz making a giga thread on plutonium forum with screenshots and so much fukng text just to complain"
-"damn bro that's crazy, who would've guessed?"Nakero said in Kiels / Eizekiels: ZTAVERN owner and Serial Scammer:
Blaze the cat said in Kiels / Eizekiels: ZTAVERN owner and Serial Scammer:
Nakero of all the language you could have chosen, you chose to speak in based
yeah bro its like:
-"oh no! the owner of a big pluto server banned ppl unfairly"
-"oh shit dude this can't be true!"-"oh no, Malyyz making a giga thread on plutonium forum with screenshots and so much fukng text just to complain"
-"damn bro that's crazy, who would've guessed?"love how you're here defending him while this whole problem is because how he clearly demonstrated in the screenshots above how he has no respect and doesn't give a fk about his community
, do you really think he gives a fk about anyone in the community that these guys maintained, if he did that to the ones that stood by him from the beginning for literally reacting with a checkmark to a msg that isnt to his likinganother thing
do you believe this bullsht?
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Was my recent attitude correct ? No, it was not. And I learned from it,
I stripped people of their freedom of speech for my personal interest
I prioritized the money over the communityFor my recent behavior, I would like to apologize to everyone for breaking the trust you have put on myself & Z-Tavern
Plutonium was nice enough to give me a second chance, I will make good use of it and try to restore the status of the servers
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do you really think he would have "LeArNeD FrOm iT" if it weren't for the backlash he got?
of course he'll say anything to save whatever is left to his image.
you really need to get your head examined if you really think it's okay to sucker everyone who considered you a friend for a free help like that
