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    why am i banned????
    i just opened the game
    get on town and i didnt even played
    not even round 1 cuz i was in class so i closed the game
    back to my house tried to play and somehow im banned

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      this a new account didnt know if a created a new one i get more days my main account is leosjared

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        Enjoy the extra few days being banned mate!

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          Enjoy the extra few days being banned mate!

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          Dec said in why am i banned?????? help:

          Enjoy the extra few days being banned mate!

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            Enjoy the extra few days being banned mate!

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            Dec the ban doesn't make sense

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            • jaredleosundefined jaredleos

              why am i banned????
              i just opened the game
              get on town and i didnt even played
              not even round 1 cuz i was in class so i closed the game
              back to my house tried to play and somehow im banned

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              jaredleos
              Plutonium has an anti-cheat that was completely custom made by our developers. While we cannot divulge information on how it works, we can confidently say that it works as we have thwarted over 20,000 cheating attempts! It will never catch everything but it most people agree that is does a better job than some others out there.
              Plutonium Cheat Policy#

              It is important you read and understand the following policy in regards to our anticheat system.

              Upon detection of a Cheat:

              Automatic ban of 7 days is placed onto the account.
              When the player tries to login, they will be displayed a message which tells them they are banned and also tells them how long is left until the ban expires.
              Attempting to bypass the ban in any way will lead to further restrictions.
              Once the ban length has expired, the system will automatically remove the ban.
              If the player is caught cheating again, the system will ban the account permanently.
              We will not provide any information regarding any given ban, remember you broke our rules.
              

              Caution

              The anticheat is always active even in solo play / private match.
              If you wish to cheat in private / solo you can use the launchers LAN mode which disables online functionality and disables the anticheat.

              The anticheat will be triggered by the following but not limited to:

              Injections
              External tools and cheats
              GSC Injectors
              Rank Unlockers
              Class editors
              FoV/FPS changer programs
              

              All official supported modding is safe including our built in GSC support.

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              • ChosenUndeadundefined ChosenUndead

                jaredleos
                Plutonium has an anti-cheat that was completely custom made by our developers. While we cannot divulge information on how it works, we can confidently say that it works as we have thwarted over 20,000 cheating attempts! It will never catch everything but it most people agree that is does a better job than some others out there.
                Plutonium Cheat Policy#

                It is important you read and understand the following policy in regards to our anticheat system.

                Upon detection of a Cheat:

                Automatic ban of 7 days is placed onto the account.
                When the player tries to login, they will be displayed a message which tells them they are banned and also tells them how long is left until the ban expires.
                Attempting to bypass the ban in any way will lead to further restrictions.
                Once the ban length has expired, the system will automatically remove the ban.
                If the player is caught cheating again, the system will ban the account permanently.
                We will not provide any information regarding any given ban, remember you broke our rules.
                

                Caution

                The anticheat is always active even in solo play / private match.
                If you wish to cheat in private / solo you can use the launchers LAN mode which disables online functionality and disables the anticheat.

                The anticheat will be triggered by the following but not limited to:

                Injections
                External tools and cheats
                GSC Injectors
                Rank Unlockers
                Class editors
                FoV/FPS changer programs
                

                All official supported modding is safe including our built in GSC support.

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                ChosenUndead aight, guess I'm banned for no reason
                I'll wait the 13 days hoping this doesn't happen again

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                • jaredleosundefined jaredleos

                  ChosenUndead aight, guess I'm banned for no reason
                  I'll wait the 13 days hoping this doesn't happen again

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                  jaredleos
                  There is always a reason... one could be a wrong config of OBS...

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                  • ChosenUndeadundefined ChosenUndead

                    jaredleos
                    There is always a reason... one could be a wrong config of OBS...

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                    ChosenUndead OBS? wdym

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                    • jaredleosundefined jaredleos

                      ChosenUndead OBS? wdym

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                      jaredleos
                      If you use OBS and it’s not configured correctly, you can get banned.
                      It seems that nowadays reading is too hard for some people... Most bans happen because they didn’t inform themselves before doing something stupid.

                      https://plutonium.pw/docs/recording-plutonium-obs/

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                      • ChosenUndeadundefined ChosenUndead

                        jaredleos
                        If you use OBS and it’s not configured correctly, you can get banned.
                        It seems that nowadays reading is too hard for some people... Most bans happen because they didn’t inform themselves before doing something stupid.

                        https://plutonium.pw/docs/recording-plutonium-obs/

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                        ChosenUndead I uninstalled obs and wont have steel series running or invidia. hopefully that works when I play next time!

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                        • knottynarwhalundefined knottynarwhal

                          ChosenUndead I uninstalled obs and wont have steel series running or invidia. hopefully that works when I play next time!

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                          knottynarwhal
                          I don’t think the SteelSeries software can get you banned, and in the case of OBS, if it’s not properly configured, it will only get you banned if you were recording.
                          I don’t know about Nvidia since I have an AMD GPU, but I haven’t had any issues so far.

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                            knottynarwhal
                            I don’t think the SteelSeries software can get you banned, and in the case of OBS, if it’s not properly configured, it will only get you banned if you were recording.
                            I don’t know about Nvidia since I have an AMD GPU, but I haven’t had any issues so far.

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                            ChosenUndead it is possible that the SteelSeries is whats causing the ban (as it has a macro feature) but it is also possible that it doesnt detect macros therefore SteelSeries wouldnt be causing the ban if it isnt flagged by anti-cheat

                            moreover, i have been recording with anti-cheat compatibility hook and i have yet to be banned, obviously it is different for everyone as even the document states "If either of those methods do not work, you can choose Display Capture for a source, but keep in mind it will record everything on the display and not just Plutonium." which i think going to display mode for recording is the best idea because you are guaranteed not to get false flagged and banned

                            also knotty claims to had updated windows while in game and when the update finished and he tried logging into plutonium, he got banned, do you think the anti-cheat could possibly false flag windows updates as cheats (genuine question)

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                              ChosenUndead I uninstalled obs and wont have steel series running or invidia. hopefully that works when I play next time!

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                              knottynarwhal nvidia app shouldnt get you banned, youre probably fine with running nvidia

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                              • embracenewlifeundefined embracenewlife

                                ChosenUndead it is possible that the SteelSeries is whats causing the ban (as it has a macro feature) but it is also possible that it doesnt detect macros therefore SteelSeries wouldnt be causing the ban if it isnt flagged by anti-cheat

                                moreover, i have been recording with anti-cheat compatibility hook and i have yet to be banned, obviously it is different for everyone as even the document states "If either of those methods do not work, you can choose Display Capture for a source, but keep in mind it will record everything on the display and not just Plutonium." which i think going to display mode for recording is the best idea because you are guaranteed not to get false flagged and banned

                                also knotty claims to had updated windows while in game and when the update finished and he tried logging into plutonium, he got banned, do you think the anti-cheat could possibly false flag windows updates as cheats (genuine question)

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                                embracenewlife said in why am i banned?????? help:

                                ChosenUndead it is possible that the SteelSeries is whats causing the ban (as it has a macro feature) but it is also possible that it doesnt detect macros therefore SteelSeries wouldnt be causing the ban if it isnt flagged by anti-cheat

                                moreover, i have been recording with anti-cheat compatibility hook and i have yet to be banned, obviously it is different for everyone as even the document states "If either of those methods do not work, you can choose Display Capture for a source, but keep in mind it will record everything on the display and not just Plutonium." which i think going to display mode for recording is the best idea because you are guaranteed not to get false flagged and banned

                                also knotty claims to had updated windows while in game and when the update finished and he tried logging into plutonium, he got banned, do you think the anti-cheat could possibly false flag windows updates as cheats (genuine question)

                                “I have been recording with the anti-cheat compatibility hook.”
                                That’s the thing. They specifically said — and I quote — “Uncheck Use anti-cheat compatibility hook.”
                                If you can’t follow the rules, you can’t complain about it.

                                I’ve played since 2018 and I have NEVER, EVER gotten a ban. And I’m currently using OBS to record any gameplay on Pluto.
                                In fact, the RivaTuner overlay is always running in the background in every game I play.

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                                  embracenewlife said in why am i banned?????? help:

                                  ChosenUndead it is possible that the SteelSeries is whats causing the ban (as it has a macro feature) but it is also possible that it doesnt detect macros therefore SteelSeries wouldnt be causing the ban if it isnt flagged by anti-cheat

                                  moreover, i have been recording with anti-cheat compatibility hook and i have yet to be banned, obviously it is different for everyone as even the document states "If either of those methods do not work, you can choose Display Capture for a source, but keep in mind it will record everything on the display and not just Plutonium." which i think going to display mode for recording is the best idea because you are guaranteed not to get false flagged and banned

                                  also knotty claims to had updated windows while in game and when the update finished and he tried logging into plutonium, he got banned, do you think the anti-cheat could possibly false flag windows updates as cheats (genuine question)

                                  “I have been recording with the anti-cheat compatibility hook.”
                                  That’s the thing. They specifically said — and I quote — “Uncheck Use anti-cheat compatibility hook.”
                                  If you can’t follow the rules, you can’t complain about it.

                                  I’ve played since 2018 and I have NEVER, EVER gotten a ban. And I’m currently using OBS to record any gameplay on Pluto.
                                  In fact, the RivaTuner overlay is always running in the background in every game I play.

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                                  ChosenUndead so were just taking what ive type out of context now are we?

                                  the full part of what i said was "i have been recording with anti-cheat compatibility hook and i have yet to be banned" notice how i say YET TO BE BANNED? You had cut that out just to fit your narrative

                                  also it is not a rule, it is a support thing as it says nothing about it being bannable to have it on in the anti-cheat document (although it is flawed and didnt give it a full list of things to be banned like it should), not to mention it is clearly shown in the support category and not anywhere else

                                  and you state "I’ve played since 2018 and I have NEVER, EVER gotten a ban. And I’m currently using OBS to record any gameplay on Pluto. In fact, the RivaTuner overlay is always running in the background in every game I play." which proves my point that it is different for everyone, you obviously are fine, im fine, knotty isnt neither is jaredleos (which i forgot to mention never even mentioned obs until you mentioned it first)

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                                    ChosenUndead so were just taking what ive type out of context now are we?

                                    the full part of what i said was "i have been recording with anti-cheat compatibility hook and i have yet to be banned" notice how i say YET TO BE BANNED? You had cut that out just to fit your narrative

                                    also it is not a rule, it is a support thing as it says nothing about it being bannable to have it on in the anti-cheat document (although it is flawed and didnt give it a full list of things to be banned like it should), not to mention it is clearly shown in the support category and not anywhere else

                                    and you state "I’ve played since 2018 and I have NEVER, EVER gotten a ban. And I’m currently using OBS to record any gameplay on Pluto. In fact, the RivaTuner overlay is always running in the background in every game I play." which proves my point that it is different for everyone, you obviously are fine, im fine, knotty isnt neither is jaredleos (which i forgot to mention never even mentioned obs until you mentioned it first)

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                                    embracenewlife
                                    If you read some of the posts about “wrong bans by the AC,” you’ll always find one of the following:

                                    1. They had used some cheat or a mod-menu to play solo/coop.

                                    2. They tried using apps like DS4, which is flagged by the AC. (I think the Plutonium staff suggested not to use that app a long time ago, but I don’t remember the post.)

                                    3. Or they were using OBS incorrectly, which can get flagged by the AC.

                                    If you follow the rules in the Plutonium Cheat Policy, I’m sure you won’t get banned.
                                    The point is to search for information about what can get you banned before complaining about it without giving any context at all.

                                    I’m glad to hear that your OBS config is not being flagged by the AC.

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                                      embracenewlife
                                      If you read some of the posts about “wrong bans by the AC,” you’ll always find one of the following:

                                      1. They had used some cheat or a mod-menu to play solo/coop.

                                      2. They tried using apps like DS4, which is flagged by the AC. (I think the Plutonium staff suggested not to use that app a long time ago, but I don’t remember the post.)

                                      3. Or they were using OBS incorrectly, which can get flagged by the AC.

                                      If you follow the rules in the Plutonium Cheat Policy, I’m sure you won’t get banned.
                                      The point is to search for information about what can get you banned before complaining about it without giving any context at all.

                                      I’m glad to hear that your OBS config is not being flagged by the AC.

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                                      ChosenUndead here is what i will say to each thing you said the AC posts

                                      1. The people saying they had some cheat / mod-menu to play solo/coop also usually state that they inject a dll file while on the online version instead of lan which is bannable unlike the supported gsc into the scripts folder method

                                      2. DS4Windows according to a contributor doesnt actually flag the AC https://forum.plutonium.pw/post/145674, it helps that this document on controller support: https://plutonium.pw/docs/controllers/ tells you to download DS4Windows for PS4 / PS5 controllers

                                      3. Again, it works differently for people, i also keep forgetting to tell you, the whole point of the anti-cheat compatibility hook (which is what im assuming youre still taking about) is to make games not detect obs as a cheat but rather a recording/broadcast software (which is what it is)

                                      4. While it is true to find out what can get you banned in the anti-cheat by researching, if there are stuff that is not listed and people get banned, it can lead to people thinking they got falsely banned when they didnt, furthermore, it can help us avoid stuff that usually anti-cheats dont detect so we dont get falsely banned (for example, maybe like some recording software that messes with the game weirdly to record or something to boost games like GearUp, or even other anti-cheats that could possibly detect plutonium like FaceIt which yes is a anti-cheat for counter strike, but i want to make an example)

                                      5. Yes, again it is true that people need to follow the rules in the cheat policy, but false flags are inevitable for every anti-cheat regardless of what it is, even the anti-cheat doc states that it is not perfect

                                      6. Thank you for understanding that the anti-cheat compatibility hook is not flagging the anti-cheat for me, some other people might not understand it, but at least now you do, and im grateful for it

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                                        ChosenUndead here is what i will say to each thing you said the AC posts

                                        1. The people saying they had some cheat / mod-menu to play solo/coop also usually state that they inject a dll file while on the online version instead of lan which is bannable unlike the supported gsc into the scripts folder method

                                        2. DS4Windows according to a contributor doesnt actually flag the AC https://forum.plutonium.pw/post/145674, it helps that this document on controller support: https://plutonium.pw/docs/controllers/ tells you to download DS4Windows for PS4 / PS5 controllers

                                        3. Again, it works differently for people, i also keep forgetting to tell you, the whole point of the anti-cheat compatibility hook (which is what im assuming youre still taking about) is to make games not detect obs as a cheat but rather a recording/broadcast software (which is what it is)

                                        4. While it is true to find out what can get you banned in the anti-cheat by researching, if there are stuff that is not listed and people get banned, it can lead to people thinking they got falsely banned when they didnt, furthermore, it can help us avoid stuff that usually anti-cheats dont detect so we dont get falsely banned (for example, maybe like some recording software that messes with the game weirdly to record or something to boost games like GearUp, or even other anti-cheats that could possibly detect plutonium like FaceIt which yes is a anti-cheat for counter strike, but i want to make an example)

                                        5. Yes, again it is true that people need to follow the rules in the cheat policy, but false flags are inevitable for every anti-cheat regardless of what it is, even the anti-cheat doc states that it is not perfect

                                        6. Thank you for understanding that the anti-cheat compatibility hook is not flagging the anti-cheat for me, some other people might not understand it, but at least now you do, and im grateful for it

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                                        embracenewlife
                                        tells you exactly what triggered the AC.

                                        Something like:

                                        “You were banned because you injected ‘cheat.dll’ from
                                        C:\Users\Random\MyCheat\cheat.dll.”

                                        Or:

                                        “The program ‘xD’ tried to modify the memory at 0xXXXXXXX in pluto.exe.”

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                                          jaredleos
                                          If you use OBS and it’s not configured correctly, you can get banned.
                                          It seems that nowadays reading is too hard for some people... Most bans happen because they didn’t inform themselves before doing something stupid.

                                          https://plutonium.pw/docs/recording-plutonium-obs/

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                                          ChosenUndead hi, again
                                          I don't even have OBS

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