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  • RedxSkullundefined RedxSkull

    90% of casual players accuse skilled players of cheating. It’s the nature of most casual players. This game is old and veterans already know all the spawn points, wall bang spots, meta, etc. If there are actual cheaters, then simply record it and report it to both Plutonium and the server owner. We can’t just ban all players that are skilled to keep casuals happy… The main reason why modern COD has skill-based matchmaking in the first place

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    RedxSkull The difference between good players who know the wallbang spots and cheaters is so obvious that its funny.
    I reported many cheaters but i think its useless because a lot of new players start cheating every day so imo the only solution is for Plutonium to implement a somewhat decent anticheat.
    I don't think they will tho because they don't seem to give a flying fuck....

    Also sbmm exists to keep noobs who get rekt from stop playing so they can spend billions of dollars in microtransactions.

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      InTrance Skill based matchmaking (SBMM) is a feature that was designed for casual players. It allows them to play with other players around their skill level and gradually improve their gameplay. Prevent getting dominated by a skilled player and quitting the game altogether. However, when it comes to dealing with cheaters, Plutonium requires video proof to prevent false bans. While Plutonium’s anti cheat system is not full proof, it’s important to know that no anti cheat system can be 100% effective. Any anti cheat system can be bypassed, even those used by AAA companies that spend thousands of dollars on their services. It’s an endless cat and mouse chase. Simple as that and the anti cheat can only slow down cheaters, but proper reporting is more effective and prevents veterans dealing with false bans. Some people don't know what a casual is, best to look it up to understand.

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      • RedxSkullundefined RedxSkull

        90% of casual players accuse skilled players of cheating. It’s the nature of most casual players. This game is old and veterans already know all the spawn points, wall bang spots, meta, etc. If there are actual cheaters, then simply record it and report it to both Plutonium and the server owner. We can’t just ban all players that are skilled to keep casuals happy… The main reason why modern COD has skill-based matchmaking in the first place

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        RedxSkull Oh you can find many video also in my post in this forum. The problem (and the cheater knows it) is: how can you record a cheater when you see on the killcam that he hit you by a single shot from sniper while blinded by a flashbang ? Records work only when you are a codecaster, but at the same time you don't have killcam so you cannot prove anything. I have many records, but most of the time cheater are out of game simply because they are annoyed and they change game. So recording video and reporting is useless. Not to mention that someone wrote that is the server admin that has to ban. So basically seems useless to post video on forum, seems you have to send the video to each server admin you play in order to get rid of him.
        There is also the "psicological trick" to get rid of a cheater. One day I accused one guy of cheating and he told me he was "prefiring". The problem is that he wasn't since then. He started from that point, just to prove that he wasn't cheating. He started really to prefire, he started to shot to air, and played so badly that in a while he become a real noob. Some cheaters are not good player, once a couple of guy accuse them of cheating, they panic, get scared to be banned and leave the game or start to play like shit.

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        • RedxSkullundefined RedxSkull

          InTrance Skill based matchmaking (SBMM) is a feature that was designed for casual players. It allows them to play with other players around their skill level and gradually improve their gameplay. Prevent getting dominated by a skilled player and quitting the game altogether. However, when it comes to dealing with cheaters, Plutonium requires video proof to prevent false bans. While Plutonium’s anti cheat system is not full proof, it’s important to know that no anti cheat system can be 100% effective. Any anti cheat system can be bypassed, even those used by AAA companies that spend thousands of dollars on their services. It’s an endless cat and mouse chase. Simple as that and the anti cheat can only slow down cheaters, but proper reporting is more effective and prevents veterans dealing with false bans. Some people don't know what a casual is, best to look it up to understand.

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          RedxSkull uhuh......

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          • LazyBuggerundefined LazyBugger

            RedxSkull Oh you can find many video also in my post in this forum. The problem (and the cheater knows it) is: how can you record a cheater when you see on the killcam that he hit you by a single shot from sniper while blinded by a flashbang ? Records work only when you are a codecaster, but at the same time you don't have killcam so you cannot prove anything. I have many records, but most of the time cheater are out of game simply because they are annoyed and they change game. So recording video and reporting is useless. Not to mention that someone wrote that is the server admin that has to ban. So basically seems useless to post video on forum, seems you have to send the video to each server admin you play in order to get rid of him.
            There is also the "psicological trick" to get rid of a cheater. One day I accused one guy of cheating and he told me he was "prefiring". The problem is that he wasn't since then. He started from that point, just to prove that he wasn't cheating. He started really to prefire, he started to shot to air, and played so badly that in a while he become a real noob. Some cheaters are not good player, once a couple of guy accuse them of cheating, they panic, get scared to be banned and leave the game or start to play like shit.

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            @Giemmeffe I spectate cheaters and then they get nervous and salty. They knife in the air and shoot in random directions or they pretend to suddenly not cheat 😄 Its funny as hell haha

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              I recorded this guy yesterday. It was the funniest cheater ever seen. Shooting on the floor because the cheat told him there was someone in the tunnel. No way to hide the cheat, but also bots were able to kill him because he had no skill. Reporting him is stupid. I already told him he was really obvious he was cheating. He asked me "am I not in lan mode?". https://youtu.be/AVAJU9RulmE

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                I can see this man has the BO1 Weapons Mod too (just R&D. That's for researching and discovery).

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                  played plutonium after taking a good amount of break. i love this game still but its super unbearable with the cheaters taking over. was there really an anticheat to this to begin with?

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                    i_Teabag Cheaters will eventually find a way to bypass the anti-cheat measures in any game. Even Triple A companies that invest thousands of dollars in anti-cheat services have already experienced bypasses. It's not possible for any anti-cheat system to be foolproof because it's an endless cat-and-mouse chase. Each time the anti-cheat is bypassed, developers need to discover how it was done and then patch it. It's an ongoing game of cat and mouse, but eventually, these cheaters' methods will be patched out. Manual bans are the most effective way to combat these cheaters. Be sure to report them and provide video proof

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                    • i_Teabagundefined i_Teabag

                      played plutonium after taking a good amount of break. i love this game still but its super unbearable with the cheaters taking over. was there really an anticheat to this to begin with?

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                      Resxt
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                      i_Teabag you might want to learn the very basics of what an anticheat does and what it is.

                      Try to find a single multi billion dollar company that has multiplayer game with no cheaters, especially pvp fps games.
                      It's not because they have no "talent" or whatsoever or not enough money. It's just not as simple as you seem to think AT ALL. You don't just double click on anticheat_setup.exe to fix it all

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                        this plutonium developers dont give a fucking shit about their servers, only good talk on the start and now they dont give a fuck, ur fucking mw3 plutoniun is fucking full of fucking hacker

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                          sounds like a skill issue on your side.

                          The AC was never intended to catch all cheaters just to get rid of most of them so the server owners can take care of the rest. If you choose to play on a server from a hoster that has many more servers than they can realistically support or simply don't have any interest in supporting you are not understanding the basics.

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                          • VICTOBundefined VICTOB

                            this plutonium developers dont give a fucking shit about their servers, only good talk on the start and now they dont give a fuck, ur fucking mw3 plutoniun is fucking full of fucking hacker

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                            VICTOB I'm yet to find one. I know they exist, but to me it just sounds like you're bad at the game

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                              we dont give a fuck shut up

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