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  • Black Lamentundefined Black Lament

    There's really no reason beyond apathy that Steam Deck players aren't able to use the service, all because one person decided to cheat with the same model of computer. I was hoping that when I reinstalled bo2 zombies it would let me play given that it's a co-op mode, but nope; still banned. For a client that is supposed to bring life to abandoned games, it just leaves a sour taste in my mouth when I basically get the Activision treatment from you, and directed to install an entirely new Operating System as if that's an acceptable solution for a game that for all other intents and purposes works fine on SteamOS. There are thousands of people that want to play their old favorites but instead we get told to kick rocks because one guy decided to try the incredibly rare act of cheating in a multiplayer game? Come on now.

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    Black Lament said in Steam Deck Patch:

    For a client that is supposed to bring life to abandoned games, it just leaves a sour taste in my mouth

    While its understandable that you are frustrated uur System requirements are not made up or pulled out of some random ass. We do need Windows as you noticed and we even need a rather new version of the windows too for those nice new faster and more secure functions built in.

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      gfy you guys suck

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        gfy you guys suck

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        o3ovann Do you not realize that this is a community free project? They aren't paid to do any of this. They built this out of the love for these old games. If you aren't satisfied with the requirements then you can either try building one yourself or look for another way.

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        • WolflexZundefined WolflexZ

          o3ovann Do you not realize that this is a community free project? They aren't paid to do any of this. They built this out of the love for these old games. If you aren't satisfied with the requirements then you can either try building one yourself or look for another way.

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          WolflexZ gfy

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          • Black Lamentundefined Black Lament

            There's really no reason beyond apathy that Steam Deck players aren't able to use the service, all because one person decided to cheat with the same model of computer. I was hoping that when I reinstalled bo2 zombies it would let me play given that it's a co-op mode, but nope; still banned. For a client that is supposed to bring life to abandoned games, it just leaves a sour taste in my mouth when I basically get the Activision treatment from you, and directed to install an entirely new Operating System as if that's an acceptable solution for a game that for all other intents and purposes works fine on SteamOS. There are thousands of people that want to play their old favorites but instead we get told to kick rocks because one guy decided to try the incredibly rare act of cheating in a multiplayer game? Come on now.

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            Black Lament I'm fairly certain you can just spoof your HWID to get around it. I don't understand the development teams thought process regarding not wanting to provide any support for platforms that aren't the latest version of Windows. Plutonium player numbers have been dwindling lately.

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            • Xerxesundefined Xerxes

              Black Lament said in Steam Deck Patch:

              For a client that is supposed to bring life to abandoned games, it just leaves a sour taste in my mouth

              While its understandable that you are frustrated uur System requirements are not made up or pulled out of some random ass. We do need Windows as you noticed and we even need a rather new version of the windows too for those nice new faster and more secure functions built in.

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              Xerxes This doesn't really have anything to do with the system requirements, since Plutonium works fine on Linux. https://forum.plutonium.pw/topic/37097/plutonium-setup-optimization-on-linux-updated

              If the anti-cheat cannot distinguish a difference between two machines with the same hardware, then it is arguably flawed.

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                Everything not mentioned in the system requirements is not supported and does not get tested. Hence why it can break at any time. We are not a tripple (or quadruple 😂 ) A studio / publisher that can afford 200 different test set-ups. The issue also lies somewhere in between since wine simply returns garbage for a lot of values.

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                  That's fair enough. I hope it's reconsidered in the future, as I don't think this is unsolvable.

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                  • Xerxesundefined Xerxes

                    Everything not mentioned in the system requirements is not supported and does not get tested. Hence why it can break at any time. We are not a tripple (or quadruple 😂 ) A studio / publisher that can afford 200 different test set-ups. The issue also lies somewhere in between since wine simply returns garbage for a lot of values.

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                    Xerxes Moron, Plutonium runs fine. The problem is you banning random people with flawed Anti-Cheat, and the OFFICIAL ADVICE FOR DEALING WITH IT (until it got deleted? Been a while.) was to SPOOF MY HARDWARE AND BYPASS THE BAN. Massive lol.

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                    • Black Lamentundefined Black Lament

                      Xerxes Moron, Plutonium runs fine. The problem is you banning random people with flawed Anti-Cheat, and the OFFICIAL ADVICE FOR DEALING WITH IT (until it got deleted? Been a while.) was to SPOOF MY HARDWARE AND BYPASS THE BAN. Massive lol.

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                      Black Lament Plutonium is a free project, so they don't really have to do your bidding. Almost most of the bans are done by the anticheat. People not reading the anticheat or not researching thoroughly. The reason why Steam Decks are getting banned is because they have similar hardware/hwid. Someone decided to cheat on the steam deck, which ruined the experience for others. I don't think they'll be lifting it anytime soon as it's a security/cheater risk. So, technically this isn't the plutonium team fault but the community or that person fault who decided to cheat on a steam deck.
                      In short, steam decks works fine but isn't technically supported, however someone decided to cheat and ruin the experience for other steam deck players.

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                      • Black Lamentundefined Black Lament

                        Xerxes Moron, Plutonium runs fine. The problem is you banning random people with flawed Anti-Cheat, and the OFFICIAL ADVICE FOR DEALING WITH IT (until it got deleted? Been a while.) was to SPOOF MY HARDWARE AND BYPASS THE BAN. Massive lol.

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                        Black Lament The Anti-Cheat may be flawed in its sense of compatibility with the steam-deck. But you need to keep in mind, this is an in-house Anti-Cheat. They made it themselves, and it had came before the steam-deck was even remotely popular among the tech community. So there was never expectations for it to not be supported by HWID misconfiguration.

                        As disappointing as it is to not be able to play projects like this because of these reasons, it is within understanding since they are a very small team. When larger company's (ones like Larian-Studios, Take-Two, Pearl Abyss etc) even struggle with general Linux compatibility, I wouldn't imagine it to be a feasible task for Plutonium on-top of any roadmap they have most likely been planning out at the moment.

                        There has always been talk of supporting the steam-deck, maybe one day Eldor will flip a switch and decide to start working on the AC for compatibility, and maybe he never will. Regardless acting like this doesn't help, I personally wouldn't want to add support to a community that acts self entitled. No one in Plutonium is telling you to install a whole new OS to play, it is just simply that they are only able to guarantee (as said by Xerxes) support on the hardware they can test it on effectively. Also as he said, Wine is always changing, it's still missing A TON of Windows Calls, Hooks, userbehavior, not to mention general differences in user/sys space.

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