Z-tavern/cipher/jackal
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kiels being the amazing person he is decided he hasn't got enough money yet
this post will include further incidents of him scamming or wrongfully using his permissions.
- wrongfully banning for 0 reason i will be sending the full convo here for further investigation hopefully by mods. wouldnt let me speak to him about it instantly banned me on the discord (i brought vip which includes the discord server tag and ect, meaning he has completely voided my reward for buying the vip and has refused to refund me multiple times.
i will be further updating this post or replying to it with further issues i have this is just my first little trial with things.
He is also listed as just a "dev" inside of the discord and claims he isnt the owner but we all know that isnt the case.
if this wasn't obvious i have no hate towards the old people that were helping this server such as blaze or some other people this post is mainly about kiels and how he shouldnt be able to host such servers while abusing his power.
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kiels being the amazing person he is decided he hasn't got enough money yet
this post will include further incidents of him scamming or wrongfully using his permissions.
- wrongfully banning for 0 reason i will be sending the full convo here for further investigation hopefully by mods. wouldnt let me speak to him about it instantly banned me on the discord (i brought vip which includes the discord server tag and ect, meaning he has completely voided my reward for buying the vip and has refused to refund me multiple times.
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i will be further updating this post or replying to it with further issues i have this is just my first little trial with things.
He is also listed as just a "dev" inside of the discord and claims he isnt the owner but we all know that isnt the case.
if this wasn't obvious i have no hate towards the old people that were helping this server such as blaze or some other people this post is mainly about kiels and how he shouldnt be able to host such servers while abusing his power.
https://forum.plutonium.pw/topic/35864/invalid-topic-issue-has-been-dealt-with/42
if anyone is interested this is the old post
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hi Prtit and I are the new owners of Z-Tavern. Kiels is no longer involved with us. We’ve been independently rebuilding Z-Tavern, investing in better dedicated servers and our own domain, while keeping VIP prices reasonable. That’s why it was concerning to see Prtit banned from Plutonium today leading to the server keys revoked being without explanation. Given the time and money we’ve invested, we’d appreciate either the ban being revoked or a clear explanation from the Plutonium staff as soon as possible
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hi Prtit and I are the new owners of Z-Tavern. Kiels is no longer involved with us. We’ve been independently rebuilding Z-Tavern, investing in better dedicated servers and our own domain, while keeping VIP prices reasonable. That’s why it was concerning to see Prtit banned from Plutonium today leading to the server keys revoked being without explanation. Given the time and money we’ve invested, we’d appreciate either the ban being revoked or a clear explanation from the Plutonium staff as soon as possible
G -X- S im not sure if this was anything to do with us considering here i am only mentioning the server cipher i only used to ztavern handle as kiels has been using it inside of the discord and that is what he is known for. sorry for not making that clear i was not aware that the ztavern servers were even still up let alone handled by new owners. if this was anything to do with me then i am very sorry and i hope this can be resolved. this issue is on kiels no one else.
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"Z-TAVERN", "Cipher" and anything else this individual is affiliated with will be banned. We're not going to spend any more time dealing with this drama.
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Since he gave us the server, he has not interfered in his affairs. So, we operate separately and have no connection to him. Especially after communication was cut off between us when I refused to return the servant to him, out of concern that he would take people's money and leave, as he has done many times before. Therefore, I demand that the ban on 'Pritit' be lifted, because he has nothing to do with this. As we said previously (we operate independently and have no relation to him)
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Hey, quick question do you actually know Kiels personally, or did you just show up to defend him with an account you created 7–8 hours ago?
Because right now it just looks like you're jumping in to protect him without really being involved. If you’ve got real experience with him, fair enough but if not, maybe don’t act like you know the full situation.
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Hey, quick question do you actually know Kiels personally, or did you just show up to defend him with an account you created 7–8 hours ago?
Because right now it just looks like you're jumping in to protect him without really being involved. If you’ve got real experience with him, fair enough but if not, maybe don’t act like you know the full situation.
MoroccoFN
Yo ElyZium I had created this secondary account because I couldn't log in to my main account, which is this one.I WAS an admin on the server, I don't know him personnally. I only defended the project because as a player I put money in it.
I and an another admin tell him in staff chat to calm down and back up on this situation but yep -_- you can see that's it's not the case.I apologize to Lux and take back what I've said; I was speaking from memory, without a screen in front of me, and I think I confused you with Spike on that point.
Just like Z-Tav when he was owner I think it's a gg, can't help the devil and I'm not a lawyer. Every time it's come to Kiels, it's end up in a Drama I should have learned my lesson back then.
I wish you all, the best. -
MoroccoFN
Yo ElyZium I had created this secondary account because I couldn't log in to my main account, which is this one.I WAS an admin on the server, I don't know him personnally. I only defended the project because as a player I put money in it.
I and an another admin tell him in staff chat to calm down and back up on this situation but yep -_- you can see that's it's not the case.I apologize to Lux and take back what I've said; I was speaking from memory, without a screen in front of me, and I think I confused you with Spike on that point.
Just like Z-Tav when he was owner I think it's a gg, can't help the devil and I'm not a lawyer. Every time it's come to Kiels, it's end up in a Drama I should have learned my lesson back then.
I wish you all, the best.damsblc been trying to calm him down for 3 years, at some point you have to accept he will never change
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MoroccoFN
Yo ElyZium I had created this secondary account because I couldn't log in to my main account, which is this one.I WAS an admin on the server, I don't know him personnally. I only defended the project because as a player I put money in it.
I and an another admin tell him in staff chat to calm down and back up on this situation but yep -_- you can see that's it's not the case.I apologize to Lux and take back what I've said; I was speaking from memory, without a screen in front of me, and I think I confused you with Spike on that point.
Just like Z-Tav when he was owner I think it's a gg, can't help the devil and I'm not a lawyer. Every time it's come to Kiels, it's end up in a Drama I should have learned my lesson back then.
I wish you all, the best.damsblc thank you very much and yes i did speak to the mod who told him to calm down but he never listens. this isnt my first interaction with him and when i was affiliated with the old ztavern server i was always treated with no respect from kiels.
i once looked up to him not knowing the full background around 3 years ago when i had a interest in coding till later i found out he only wants the money.
i do not hate you or anyone else that was involved with this situation all the mods just get told to listen to him and do what he says no one else can be blamed for this then he can.
I got told to make a ticket. i made a ticket.
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