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  • EagleWatchundefined EagleWatch

    Hello Plutonium staff, as you might already know for an oddly strange reason our great government here in Iraq is blocking some CloudFlare services making Plutonium unplayable in the country.

    It is quiet sad for me and a lot of my friends who used to play this occasionally and have wonderful time together, but we can no more. As for now the only way for me to access this site is by using a VPN, however I can't be using a VPN during the gameplay as it is not allowed by Plutonium.

    Please Plutonium Staff hear me out. Help us find a workaround for this issues as I know it is a waste of time to go asking the government for a solution as they give no crap to video games so asking for a help here is the only resort for us.

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    EagleWatch said in Find a solution for the problem faced by Iraqi players:

    I can't be using a VPN during the gameplay as it is not allowed by Plutonium.

    That is a blatant lie, we don't care about you using a VPN.

    Also any solution would require more money, which is sparse.

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    • Xerxesundefined Xerxes

      EagleWatch said in Find a solution for the problem faced by Iraqi players:

      I can't be using a VPN during the gameplay as it is not allowed by Plutonium.

      That is a blatant lie, we don't care about you using a VPN.

      Also any solution would require more money, which is sparse.

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      Xerxes Servers kick us when we join using VPN

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        Xerxes
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        Then play on ones which don't.

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        • Xerxesundefined Xerxes

          EagleWatch said in Find a solution for the problem faced by Iraqi players:

          I can't be using a VPN during the gameplay as it is not allowed by Plutonium.

          That is a blatant lie, we don't care about you using a VPN.

          Also any solution would require more money, which is sparse.

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          Xerxes said in Find a solution for the problem faced by Iraqi players:

          we don't care about you using a VPN.

          Firstly, the whole plutonium application refuses to start with VPN running and secondly, we already have one of the worst internet services out there. Servers were already too laggy before this, now I cannot even imagine how they would be while running a VPN.

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            Xerxes
            Plutonium Staff
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            Sounds more like you have issues with cheap / bad / free VPNs.
            Once again, we don't care at all if you use a VPN or not.
            Expensive ones won't cause you any issues when it comes to online games, some even directly market to gamers because dedicated servers usually get slightly better routes.

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              Eldor
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              A solution for this would be an alternative (non-Cloudflare) ingress path for backend traffic, which would have to routed through separate infrastructure. This would likely cost us at least an additional ~$10/month for something that wouldn't immediately die from even a small DDoS attack. Development time would have to be spent to implement this fallback method as well. Are you willing to pool together, say $100 to cover this?

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              • Eldorundefined Eldor

                A solution for this would be an alternative (non-Cloudflare) ingress path for backend traffic, which would have to routed through separate infrastructure. This would likely cost us at least an additional ~$10/month for something that wouldn't immediately die from even a small DDoS attack. Development time would have to be spent to implement this fallback method as well. Are you willing to pool together, say $100 to cover this?

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                Eldor said in Find a solution for the problem faced by Iraqi players:

                Are you willing to pool together, say $100 to cover this?

                That is way out of my budget alone and I do not believe anyone from my country would be willing to spare a few bucks for that.

                I believe that this could have been sorted out if someone had reached to our ISP company called Earthlink Telecom and perhaps they could've been able to find a workaround for this issue.

                Personally I cannot be the one doing that as I don't really understand what the issue really is. Apart from that, the people I can reach to can't do much neither.

                We would appreciate a solution for this. It is really unfortunate thing for us, especially me as I happened to discover this very late and could not enjoy it only a little before it got blocked by the government or the ISP.

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                • Xerxesundefined Xerxes

                  Sounds more like you have issues with cheap / bad / free VPNs.
                  Once again, we don't care at all if you use a VPN or not.
                  Expensive ones won't cause you any issues when it comes to online games, some even directly market to gamers because dedicated servers usually get slightly better routes.

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                  Xerxes said in Find a solution for the problem faced by Iraqi players:

                  Sounds more like you have issues with cheap / bad / free VPNs.

                  Plutonium is a free service. How can you expect anyone to pay for an expensive VPN to play on a free service.

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                  • EagleWatchundefined EagleWatch

                    Xerxes said in Find a solution for the problem faced by Iraqi players:

                    Sounds more like you have issues with cheap / bad / free VPNs.

                    Plutonium is a free service. How can you expect anyone to pay for an expensive VPN to play on a free service.

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                    Xerxes
                    Plutonium Staff
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                    Let's reverse the logic, considering you completely ignored what Eldor wrote I already know how you will react.

                    EagleWatch said in Find a solution for the problem faced by Iraqi players:

                    Plutonium is a free service. How can you expect anyone to pay for an expensive VPN to play on a free service.

                    Plutonium is a free service. How can you expect us to pay for an second CDN to fix your government blocking a free service.

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                      I did not completely ignore what Eldor wrote. I just replied to both of you.

                      I understand that it costs a lot of money to keep things up and running and I asked for a workaround that is free and possible to do. You guys made good work with building this thing up and it is your job to keep it up and find solution for people who cannot use it. We are not talking about a few people we are talking about a whole country only from my friend group I know like 8 people who used to play on plutonium and I can also see others asking for help on different topics. in the end as I said we can't do anything to fix the problem, but you guys can. Am I wrong?

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                      • EagleWatchundefined EagleWatch

                        I did not completely ignore what Eldor wrote. I just replied to both of you.

                        I understand that it costs a lot of money to keep things up and running and I asked for a workaround that is free and possible to do. You guys made good work with building this thing up and it is your job to keep it up and find solution for people who cannot use it. We are not talking about a few people we are talking about a whole country only from my friend group I know like 8 people who used to play on plutonium and I can also see others asking for help on different topics. in the end as I said we can't do anything to fix the problem, but you guys can. Am I wrong?

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                        Eldor
                        Plutonium Admin
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                        EagleWatch said in Find a solution for the problem faced by Iraqi players:

                        it is your job to keep it up and find solution for people who cannot use it

                        No, it is not. If you can't cope with that reality, go ahead and leave.

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                          A solution for this would be an alternative (non-Cloudflare) ingress path for backend traffic, which would have to routed through separate infrastructure. This would likely cost us at least an additional ~$10/month for something that wouldn't immediately die from even a small DDoS attack. Development time would have to be spent to implement this fallback method as well. Are you willing to pool together, say $100 to cover this?

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                          • EagleWatchundefined EagleWatch

                            I did not completely ignore what Eldor wrote. I just replied to both of you.

                            I understand that it costs a lot of money to keep things up and running and I asked for a workaround that is free and possible to do. You guys made good work with building this thing up and it is your job to keep it up and find solution for people who cannot use it. We are not talking about a few people we are talking about a whole country only from my friend group I know like 8 people who used to play on plutonium and I can also see others asking for help on different topics. in the end as I said we can't do anything to fix the problem, but you guys can. Am I wrong?

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                            EagleWatch Their " job " ??? Lmfao they are doing it on free time, not their job. They own us nothing

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                              @Unkn0wnSniper thank you for the kind answer

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