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  • GateDiggersundefined Offline
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    These names are code names that only the developers would know. Why should we the end user/player have to memorize these code names instead of familiar names such as Black Ops 1, Black Ops 2, MW3 that we already know. Why add this touch?

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    • GateDiggersundefined GateDiggers

      These names are code names that only the developers would know. Why should we the end user/player have to memorize these code names instead of familiar names such as Black Ops 1, Black Ops 2, MW3 that we already know. Why add this touch?

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      GateDiggers said in T4, T5, T6, IW5 naming is not user friendly:

      These names are code names that only the developers would know. Why should we the end user/player have to memorize these code names instead of familiar names such as Black Ops 1, Black Ops 2, MW3 that we already know. Why add this touch?

      Those names are older than you, I can promise that.
      The first time I heard about “IW5” was from FD1 (Four Delta One), same with T5.
      And it’s not that hard to figure out which games they’re based on from their code names.

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        T4 – Call of Duty: World at War

        Developer: Treyarch
        Engine: IW 3.0 (modified by Treyarch)
        Meaning: T4 = Treyarch Engine, 4th iteration

        T5 – Call of Duty: Black Ops

        Developer: Treyarch
        Engine: IW 3.0 → further modified by Treyarch (internal version known as T5 Engine)
        Meaning: T5 = Treyarch Engine, 5th generation

        T6 – Call of Duty: Black Ops II

        Developer: Treyarch
        Engine: IW 3.0 → heavily modified (T6 Engine)
        Meaning: T6 = Treyarch Engine, 6th generation

        IW5 – Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

        Developer: Infinity Ward + Sledgehammer Games
        Engine: IW 5.0
        Meaning: Infinity Ward Engine, 5th iteration

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        • GateDiggersundefined GateDiggers

          These names are code names that only the developers would know. Why should we the end user/player have to memorize these code names instead of familiar names such as Black Ops 1, Black Ops 2, MW3 that we already know. Why add this touch?

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          GateDiggers said in T4, T5, T6, IW5 naming is not user friendly:

          Why should we the end user/player have to memorize these code names instead of familiar names

          Where do you have to memorize them?

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            Xerxes Because there is no mention of the proper game titles anywhere in Plutonium. I shouldn't have to read a forum article to translate these silly code names to the actual real game names. This idea was totally beyond the scope of what was necessary for no reason at all. If you want to use silly code names at least put the real names in the title too? Steam doesn't have the game ID code as the title in the library interface, it uses the official player friendly names. It also adds unnessessary confusion because I have to use the background images to tell the difference between "T5" and "T6". This is an autistic design choice that is not user friendly.

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              tell me you don't read the website without telling me you don't read the website...

              https://plutonium.pw/docs/engine-explanations/

              It also says the GateDiggers friendly title in big bold letters before you have to hit play... so it's not like you have to guess or decipher the background image.

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              • DirkRockfaceundefined DirkRockface

                tell me you don't read the website without telling me you don't read the website...

                https://plutonium.pw/docs/engine-explanations/

                It also says the GateDiggers friendly title in big bold letters before you have to hit play... so it's not like you have to guess or decipher the background image.

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                DirkRockface I am a player, not a modder. I shouldn't have to research these fancy code names and decipher them to the official names. That is my point here. A lack of a user friendly design and I am doing my best to provide the most constructive criticism possible because that is how things improve.

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                  so are you going to stop playing call of duty on plutonium because you can't figure out those terms? because they aren't going away... or being changed... so i'm not sure what you are looking to get done. We understand they are confusing to you and you don't like them... but they aint going anywhere so... 🤷

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                  • GateDiggersundefined GateDiggers

                    DirkRockface I am a player, not a modder. I shouldn't have to research these fancy code names and decipher them to the official names. That is my point here. A lack of a user friendly design and I am doing my best to provide the most constructive criticism possible because that is how things improve.

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                    GateDiggers
                    You should ask to chatgpt for some help(?

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                    • G0LD3N 4RMundefined Offline
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                      What is even Plutonium Forums nowadays in the futuristic-sounding year of 2025 with a topic like this XD

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                      • GateDiggersundefined GateDiggers

                        Xerxes Because there is no mention of the proper game titles anywhere in Plutonium. I shouldn't have to read a forum article to translate these silly code names to the actual real game names. This idea was totally beyond the scope of what was necessary for no reason at all. If you want to use silly code names at least put the real names in the title too? Steam doesn't have the game ID code as the title in the library interface, it uses the official player friendly names. It also adds unnessessary confusion because I have to use the background images to tell the difference between "T5" and "T6". This is an autistic design choice that is not user friendly.

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                        GateDiggers said in T4, T5, T6, IW5 naming is not user friendly:

                        Because there is no mention of the proper game titles anywhere in Plutonium.

                        Literally the first page of our documentation which explains how to install Plutonium has both names side by side. Which you can only miss if you were using some 3rd party guide on the install process.
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                        • Littlegodsundefined Littlegods

                          T4 – Call of Duty: World at War

                          Developer: Treyarch
                          Engine: IW 3.0 (modified by Treyarch)
                          Meaning: T4 = Treyarch Engine, 4th iteration

                          T5 – Call of Duty: Black Ops

                          Developer: Treyarch
                          Engine: IW 3.0 → further modified by Treyarch (internal version known as T5 Engine)
                          Meaning: T5 = Treyarch Engine, 5th generation

                          T6 – Call of Duty: Black Ops II

                          Developer: Treyarch
                          Engine: IW 3.0 → heavily modified (T6 Engine)
                          Meaning: T6 = Treyarch Engine, 6th generation

                          IW5 – Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

                          Developer: Infinity Ward + Sledgehammer Games
                          Engine: IW 5.0
                          Meaning: Infinity Ward Engine, 5th iteration

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                          Littlegods the guy asked about the design choice, not what they mean

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