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I was randomly banned for cheating while playing a trickshot server?

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  • DirkRockfaceundefined DirkRockface

    gore_ yeah i didn't know what you meant by that trickshot last kill thing but since you offered it as something that you were doing when you got banned, i just wanted to clarify... 👍

    I'm not trying to say that you are necessarily lying, i'm just saying i've never known the staff to take a banned person's "word for it" and reversed a ban... they know how the anti-cheat works and i'm sure have logs that can tell them much more info than what us normals are privy to!

    I absolutely disagree that this is "clearly an issue" because if there was a rampant issue of false positives, you would see A HELL of a lot more people complaining about it compared to the VERY few people (most of whom i bet are full of crap) saying they didn't do anything.

    I am obviously not staff or an admin so if they want to dig more into this, they can... My answers just came from the last couple years of observations of people who did in fact cheat and just said they wouldn't do it again. Just passing along the info!

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    DirkRockface thank you for replying with a little bit more compassion brother. i do believe that the other thread of the guy posting was telling the truth as well. i understand your stand on people trying to appeal bans and you want to assume guilt but there isn't really a way to cheat while trickshotting with it not being known in the clips. there for i dont think he truly was cheating. i think this may be a newer issue bc i have trickshotted on pluto servers for about 4 years not joking and this has never happened to me. the game is a lot more dead now then it was back then as well. my concern is just not being able to figure out the reason i was banned and then the anti cheat picks up the same thing and i am banned for even longer then making it impossible for me to play the game. i am more then willing to wait the 7 days out but i would like to return and be able to play. the only thing i can think of is the bind i set to change my fps but i'm not even sure if that is it. i used the bind multiple times prior to me getting banned. super strange hopefully someone can help me figure this out.

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    • gore_undefined gore_

      DirkRockface thank you for replying with a little bit more compassion brother. i do believe that the other thread of the guy posting was telling the truth as well. i understand your stand on people trying to appeal bans and you want to assume guilt but there isn't really a way to cheat while trickshotting with it not being known in the clips. there for i dont think he truly was cheating. i think this may be a newer issue bc i have trickshotted on pluto servers for about 4 years not joking and this has never happened to me. the game is a lot more dead now then it was back then as well. my concern is just not being able to figure out the reason i was banned and then the anti cheat picks up the same thing and i am banned for even longer then making it impossible for me to play the game. i am more then willing to wait the 7 days out but i would like to return and be able to play. the only thing i can think of is the bind i set to change my fps but i'm not even sure if that is it. i used the bind multiple times prior to me getting banned. super strange hopefully someone can help me figure this out.

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      gore_ We as contributor also have to follow these same rules. If we break them we also get banned, no exception, no ban appeals. We simply give you the answer what other people get banned for. In any way you mess with the game memory, you will get ban. Doesn't matter if it was harmless or something as long as it is to mess with the game memory. Most people I see get ban in trickshot servers either used a tool for clips, cinematic editors, injectors, etc. We don't have access to logs or the reason why you're banned. All or most bans are handled by the anti-cheat system. Not by the plutonium team. I'm pretty sure plutonium team does have logs on why you were banned but they don't usually give out those logs either. So, from my experience it is either whatever you did is at fault unless the plutonium staff gives you an answer. We as contributors are just someone who donated to the plutonium project we don't have access to anything except early testing builds.
      So, the answer I can give you is simply wait your 7 days ban and whatever you did, just don't do it again or else it will be permanent. Also creating alt accounts to bypass will lead to extra time being on your account.

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      • WolflexZundefined WolflexZ

        gore_ We as contributor also have to follow these same rules. If we break them we also get banned, no exception, no ban appeals. We simply give you the answer what other people get banned for. In any way you mess with the game memory, you will get ban. Doesn't matter if it was harmless or something as long as it is to mess with the game memory. Most people I see get ban in trickshot servers either used a tool for clips, cinematic editors, injectors, etc. We don't have access to logs or the reason why you're banned. All or most bans are handled by the anti-cheat system. Not by the plutonium team. I'm pretty sure plutonium team does have logs on why you were banned but they don't usually give out those logs either. So, from my experience it is either whatever you did is at fault unless the plutonium staff gives you an answer. We as contributors are just someone who donated to the plutonium project we don't have access to anything except early testing builds.
        So, the answer I can give you is simply wait your 7 days ban and whatever you did, just don't do it again or else it will be permanent. Also creating alt accounts to bypass will lead to extra time being on your account.

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        WolflexZ You as a contributor could've gone with out responding with that reply. I'm not trying to be rude but I have explained very clearly I didn't modify the memory above in my previous replies. Also I asked if a staff member could possibly help me out and insure that I don't get banned again and find the reasoning I was banned. Since you're unable to give me that information and I have already requested to speak with staff your response wasn't needed. Thanks brother!

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        • WolflexZundefined WolflexZ

          gore_ We as contributor also have to follow these same rules. If we break them we also get banned, no exception, no ban appeals. We simply give you the answer what other people get banned for. In any way you mess with the game memory, you will get ban. Doesn't matter if it was harmless or something as long as it is to mess with the game memory. Most people I see get ban in trickshot servers either used a tool for clips, cinematic editors, injectors, etc. We don't have access to logs or the reason why you're banned. All or most bans are handled by the anti-cheat system. Not by the plutonium team. I'm pretty sure plutonium team does have logs on why you were banned but they don't usually give out those logs either. So, from my experience it is either whatever you did is at fault unless the plutonium staff gives you an answer. We as contributors are just someone who donated to the plutonium project we don't have access to anything except early testing builds.
          So, the answer I can give you is simply wait your 7 days ban and whatever you did, just don't do it again or else it will be permanent. Also creating alt accounts to bypass will lead to extra time being on your account.

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          • WolflexZundefined WolflexZ

            gore_ We as contributor also have to follow these same rules. If we break them we also get banned, no exception, no ban appeals. We simply give you the answer what other people get banned for. In any way you mess with the game memory, you will get ban. Doesn't matter if it was harmless or something as long as it is to mess with the game memory. Most people I see get ban in trickshot servers either used a tool for clips, cinematic editors, injectors, etc. We don't have access to logs or the reason why you're banned. All or most bans are handled by the anti-cheat system. Not by the plutonium team. I'm pretty sure plutonium team does have logs on why you were banned but they don't usually give out those logs either. So, from my experience it is either whatever you did is at fault unless the plutonium staff gives you an answer. We as contributors are just someone who donated to the plutonium project we don't have access to anything except early testing builds.
            So, the answer I can give you is simply wait your 7 days ban and whatever you did, just don't do it again or else it will be permanent. Also creating alt accounts to bypass will lead to extra time being on your account.

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            WolflexZ said in I was randomly banned for cheating while playing a trickshot server?:

            I'm pretty sure plutonium team does have logs on why you were banned but they don't usually give out those logs either.

            Even if we would give out those little logs we collect there is not much you can read out of them. Unlike some other big name anti cheat developers we preserve your privacy and don't try to collect everything we can scrape off your PC.

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            • Xerxesundefined Xerxes

              WolflexZ said in I was randomly banned for cheating while playing a trickshot server?:

              I'm pretty sure plutonium team does have logs on why you were banned but they don't usually give out those logs either.

              Even if we would give out those little logs we collect there is not much you can read out of them. Unlike some other big name anti cheat developers we preserve your privacy and don't try to collect everything we can scrape off your PC.

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              Xerxes this shit blows man im worried about getting banned again after my time is up. i enjoy playing the game and i am concerned. hopefully if i just unbind my m and n bind that i made for fps change that will be the solution. i do believe that my nvidia shadow play should be ok as it has been in the past so many times before.

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              • gore_undefined gore_

                Xerxes this shit blows man im worried about getting banned again after my time is up. i enjoy playing the game and i am concerned. hopefully if i just unbind my m and n bind that i made for fps change that will be the solution. i do believe that my nvidia shadow play should be ok as it has been in the past so many times before.

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                gore_ console commands cannot ban you

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                • Resxtundefined Resxt

                  gore_ console commands cannot ban you

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                  Resxt well gg looks like i will be unable to play

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                  • gore_undefined gore_

                    Resxt well gg looks like i will be unable to play

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                    gore_ Did you have any apps that would hook the game in any way, such as fraps or MSI Afterburner?

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                    • TheMachinist123undefined TheMachinist123

                      gore_ Did you have any apps that would hook the game in any way, such as fraps or MSI Afterburner?

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                      TheMachinist123 nope

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                      • Xerxesundefined Xerxes

                        WolflexZ said in I was randomly banned for cheating while playing a trickshot server?:

                        I'm pretty sure plutonium team does have logs on why you were banned but they don't usually give out those logs either.

                        Even if we would give out those little logs we collect there is not much you can read out of them. Unlike some other big name anti cheat developers we preserve your privacy and don't try to collect everything we can scrape off your PC.

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                        Xerxes Good to know

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                        • gore_undefined gore_

                          WolflexZ You as a contributor could've gone with out responding with that reply. I'm not trying to be rude but I have explained very clearly I didn't modify the memory above in my previous replies. Also I asked if a staff member could possibly help me out and insure that I don't get banned again and find the reasoning I was banned. Since you're unable to give me that information and I have already requested to speak with staff your response wasn't needed. Thanks brother!

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                          gore_ Again, we can only assume it was from your end cause we don't have any access for anything at all from what you were doing or had running in the background. We can only assume with what the information we have at hand, what you did before hand, and the information you've provided. We were just referring to the anti-cheat policy and the potentials of what you had been banned for. It can be multiple of things. It's great that you said you didn't do such things but we don't 100% know that and how are we suppose to know what you said is credible.

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