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    Zenoish
    wrote on Sep 13, 2021, 8:19 PM last edited by
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    I just got BO2 plutonium and it works almost flawlessly. But I noticed that the game feels a bit unresponsive and it felt like I didnt have full control of my aim on my controller but, I knew right away that this was because the stick minimum input threshold better known as "deadzone" was placed at a very high setting. So I looked through the commands and found it and for those who don't know this command is written as "gpad_stick_deadzone_min" and following that the default setting for this is 0.2 which in my opinion and I would assume many others opinion is very high. So naturally I changed it to what I know is a comfortable deadzone based off of other shooter games that I have played and changed that number to 0.05 and instantly the game felt so much smoother and I felt like it was that much easier to aim on controller. But that's when I ran into the first problem with this discovery. I don't know for sure but either all of the plutonium commands in the game switch back to default after every game or this command in particular resets every time a new map loads up. This is frustrating because every game I get into I have to type in the same command for the game to feel right. This was fine even though I wished that it would just save the setting I want it to be but not a huge deal. But, then I joined a competitive server with an anti-cheat on it and the command would get denied if I tried it as it was considered "cheating." Now every game I get into I cant even set the deadzone I want to play on because I joined that one game with the anti-cheat on it. So after that longs story I want to know this:
    Is there anyway that this command can be taken off the anti-cheat? I'd argue that this command isn't cheating and is just a preference that every player can take advantage of if they desire.

    Is there a way I can use this command again or am I permanently unauthorized to use it anymore?

    Is it possible to allow these types of commands to be saved from game to game so those like me don't have to type it in every game?

    And finally, is there something I am unaware of that makes this entire post pointless?

    Thanks in advance to the hard working people at plutonium.

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      Matrix Plutonium Staff
      replied to Zenoish on Sep 13, 2021, 9:56 PM last edited by
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      Zenoish said in Stick Deadzone options:

      I just got BO2 plutonium and it works almost flawlessly. But I noticed that the game feels a bit unresponsive and it felt like I didnt have full control of my aim on my controller but, I knew right away that this was because the stick minimum input threshold better known as "deadzone" was placed at a very high setting. So I looked through the commands and found it and for those who don't know this command is written as "gpad_stick_deadzone_min" and following that the default setting for this is 0.2 which in my opinion and I would assume many others opinion is very high. So naturally I changed it to what I know is a comfortable deadzone based off of other shooter games that I have played and changed that number to 0.05 and instantly the game felt so much smoother and I felt like it was that much easier to aim on controller. But that's when I ran into the first problem with this discovery. I don't know for sure but either all of the plutonium commands in the game switch back to default after every game or this command in particular resets every time a new map loads up. This is frustrating because every game I get into I have to type in the same command for the game to feel right. This was fine even though I wished that it would just save the setting I want it to be but not a huge deal. But, then I joined a competitive server with an anti-cheat on it and the command would get denied if I tried it as it was considered "cheating." Now every game I get into I cant even set the deadzone I want to play on because I joined that one game with the anti-cheat on it. So after that longs story I want to know this:
      Is there anyway that this command can be taken off the anti-cheat? I'd argue that this command isn't cheating and is just a preference that every player can take advantage of if they desire.

      Is there a way I can use this command again or am I permanently unauthorized to use it anymore?

      Is it possible to allow these types of commands to be saved from game to game so those like me don't have to type it in every game?

      And finally, is there something I am unaware of that makes this entire post pointless?

      Thanks in advance to the hard working people at plutonium.

      They cannot be changed currently because the dvars are cheat-protected. Which is a way of saying that the game wasn't meant to be able to change them in normal servers. This can probably be changed though to allow those dvars to be changed to user configurable values as I do agree this will not give any player a competitive edge over the others

      As for the 0.2 being the default value, it is set to that because it is also the default value on Xbox.

      I can't promise this change will come, but we will at the very least discuss it

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        Zenoish
        replied to Matrix on Sep 13, 2021, 9:57 PM last edited by
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        Matrix thank you so much

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          JezuzLizard Plutonium Staff
          replied to Zenoish on Sep 13, 2021, 10:06 PM last edited by
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          Zenoish We appreciate you for taking the time to make this topic! Its always nice when people politely explain their issue, and give as much information as possible.

          Remember that this isn't something that was on our radar until you brought it up.

          β™₯

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            Zenoish
            wrote on Sep 13, 2021, 11:08 PM last edited by
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            Of course! πŸ™‚ There's no time to get mad or be mean about it. I love what you guys have done and I'm sorry I gave you guys more work to do lol xD

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              BCZBOOST
              replied to Zenoish on Sep 14, 2021, 9:22 AM last edited by
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                BCZBOOST
                replied to Matrix on Sep 14, 2021, 9:39 AM last edited by
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                Matrix would love to see options for editing deadzone happen. I’d like to play with a controller but .20 is unplayable. πŸ˜•

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                  Resxt Plutonium Staff
                  replied to Zenoish on Sep 14, 2021, 11:02 AM last edited by
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                  Zenoish I have no idea if that could help you since I'm not a controller guy but I know that some controller software like ScpToolkit allow you to configure your joysticks deadzone

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                    Zenoish
                    wrote on Sep 14, 2021, 10:44 PM last edited by
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                    @lResxt I've been looking for one but they don't seem like they work on bo2 for some reason πŸ˜•

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                      ZeLiNKK
                      wrote on Sep 15, 2021, 7:48 AM last edited by
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                      How to change in game plz ?

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                        UniversY Krizh
                        replied to JezuzLizard on Sep 15, 2021, 8:43 AM last edited by
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                        JezuzLizard Thanks for replying to this post guys ! A friend of mine and myself just starting playing a few days ago on the servers and it's great. We've played many years on Xbox before that, and we also do feel the same as Zenoish regarding the controller issue.

                        We haven't been able to test out the deadzone value change since it is cheat protected but my friend fired up the old Xbox 360 to feel the difference and it truly is astonishing how the game is much more playable. I know this is kinda '' normal '' since the xbox is meant to be played with controllers and pc isn't but just wanted to let you guys know πŸ˜‰

                        Thanks in advance ! πŸ™‚

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                          Zenoish
                          replied to ZeLiNKK on Sep 15, 2021, 3:16 PM last edited by
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                          ZeLiNKK the command is gpad_stick_deadzone_min and then press the space bar once and type the desired deadzone as a decimal and hit enter but again most servers have cheats off and as of right now you cannot edit it as it is considered a cheat...If you just want to feel the difference I recommend loading up a private zombies game then turn on cheats and try the command for yourself.

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                            Matrix Plutonium Staff
                            replied to Zenoish on Sep 19, 2021, 6:02 PM last edited by
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                            Zenoish said in Stick Deadzone options:

                            ZeLiNKK the command is gpad_stick_deadzone_min and then press the space bar once and type the desired deadzone as a decimal and hit enter but again most servers have cheats off and as of right now you cannot edit it as it is considered a cheat...If you just want to feel the difference I recommend loading up a private zombies game then turn on cheats and try the command for yourself.

                            https://plutonium.pw/docs/changelog/

                            You can now change these dvars as needed on both IW5 and T6 πŸ™‚

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                              Zenoish
                              wrote on Sep 19, 2021, 7:52 PM last edited by
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                              Thank you guys so much ❀ sorry for the trouble 😧

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                                UniversY Krizh
                                wrote on Sep 20, 2021, 11:02 AM last edited by
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                                Thank you guys ! will try it out later but thanks for listening to us πŸ™‚

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                                  duncanscott
                                  replied to Matrix on Jan 17, 2022, 5:36 PM last edited by
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                                  Matrix Will this change come to T4 at some point?

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                                    Ball Sack
                                    replied to Matrix on Apr 28, 2022, 10:21 PM last edited by
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                                    Matrix could you please implement configurable deadzones into t4 if you get a chance. .2 deadzone is so clunky. it’d just be nice to match my deadzones on waw with the ones i put on bo2 and mw3. those games run wonderful with the customizable deadzones.

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                                      impetex
                                      replied to Matrix on Nov 10, 2022, 12:07 AM last edited by
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                                      Matrix hey man, thank you so much for your work and answer. it improved my experience so much! do you know if this works for Black Ops 1 as well? will it work in the future?
                                      thanks!

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                                        Lunacy Phoenix
                                        wrote on Oct 31, 2023, 8:25 PM last edited by
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                                        Hi guys, I know this topic is very old but Id also like to ask, please can you allow us to drop the Minimum deadzone to Zero. After playing modern CoD and having so many options coming back to this game (as good as it is still) feels like a nightmare. I make a LOT of tiny micro movements when centring and aiming and the 0.20 Deadzone makes this unplayable for me as any movement past the deadzone makes my aim jump.

                                        Also while not Directly linked to deadzone, Would it be possible to get a response curve option? I usually play Linear on most recent games, but most play on Dynamic. This Quality of life improvement will make the game much more comfortable to current game players who want to come back and enjoy some classic Call of Duty, without the sudden Jarring change in how our inputs feel.

                                        And as a SUPER bonus (though I wouldn't expect it) Would it be possible to add an affected FOV for ADS or just a separate FOV slider for ADS. For similar reasons as above points.

                                        Thank you for all the work you have done so far.

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                                          ook
                                          replied to Lunacy Phoenix on Aug 10, 2024, 6:04 PM last edited by
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                                          Lunacy Phoenix open console and type in gpad_stick_deadzone_min 0.01

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