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    • Ultrabarsundefined Ultrabars

      Xerxes Did you mean to reply to Malyyz ? If no, my bad for wording the part about "proof of refunds" poorly. I meant to say that people can view in-game point refunds in the server public chats but for money refunds Eizekiels is willing to show any necessary proof to Plutonium's staff where he clearly refunded people.

      TrazTv13 Shoutout to you my guy for sharing those screenshots, as you plutonium staff can see, everything you guys needed to know is written there. It is also crucial for everyone here to understand that english is not everyone's main language here so I highly recommend to question before taking actions to not further escalate the situation.

      Blaze the cat I understand the situation regarding luffy paying for the raid pass while some other guy gets it for free. However, I hope you do realize that the distributed paid products from Kiels to his community fall under the category of "Giveaways," which are used to maintain entertainment within a community. I never thought that elaborating on this would be necessary. Many other communities host "giveaways" for community engagement purposes.

      • Below I have attached proof of Kiels willingness to share the sensitive information to you Plutonium staff members.
      • Below you can also view his statement saying ''All refunds asked were out of my tos yet I still refunded'' indicating good faith.

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      I think Kiels offers enough transparency and indicates good faith. He already has apologized to the community, he is working on undoing some 'things' (check the screenshots from TrazTv13).

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      Ultrabars
      I would suggest listening to Xerxes and stop spreading screenshots that aren't true.

      I don't know whether you're arguing this because you're trying to get some praise from Kiels or fellow peers but this needs to end now.

      The punishment has been given out, its a 2 week ban. You're acting like this is a permanent ban. This is just meant to set Kiels straight and give him time to think about does he really want a community, or the money?

      Also, I find it funny how fast you switched sides, maybe delete messages to make your arguments more credible
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        Ultrabars

        Do you even know what Kiels his plan was for Z-Tavern?
        Clearly not he planned to make Z-Tavern F2P (Free to Play) but instead of making it he turned around to yeah lets make a lot of money and fk f2p he tried to get as much money as possible.
        Also the best thing for me is that the excuses for the banning were „while under influence“ so it’s alright that he banned us cuz he under influence dafuq. Ultra just wait one day you will see.

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        • Ultrabarsundefined Ultrabars

          Xerxes Did you mean to reply to Malyyz ? If no, my bad for wording the part about "proof of refunds" poorly. I meant to say that people can view in-game point refunds in the server public chats but for money refunds Eizekiels is willing to show any necessary proof to Plutonium's staff where he clearly refunded people.

          TrazTv13 Shoutout to you my guy for sharing those screenshots, as you plutonium staff can see, everything you guys needed to know is written there. It is also crucial for everyone here to understand that english is not everyone's main language here so I highly recommend to question before taking actions to not further escalate the situation.

          Blaze the cat I understand the situation regarding luffy paying for the raid pass while some other guy gets it for free. However, I hope you do realize that the distributed paid products from Kiels to his community fall under the category of "Giveaways," which are used to maintain entertainment within a community. I never thought that elaborating on this would be necessary. Many other communities host "giveaways" for community engagement purposes.

          • Below I have attached proof of Kiels willingness to share the sensitive information to you Plutonium staff members.
          • Below you can also view his statement saying ''All refunds asked were out of my tos yet I still refunded'' indicating good faith.

          Screenshot 2024-05-02 025953.jpg

          I think Kiels offers enough transparency and indicates good faith. He already has apologized to the community, he is working on undoing some 'things' (check the screenshots from TrazTv13).

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          Ultrabars the thing is it's still not ok to do that, he made that decision on a whim because he was under the influence, the thing is that it keep hapenning every day and most of thoose decision have terrible consequence (a guy litteraly got 1m zcoins for free and became first zcoins for no reasonn might seem small with everything that's going on rn but it allways some dumb shit like this) i think kiels gave that raid pass because he thought that was funny while under influence whille disregarding luffy's support, i can't speak for luffy and i think he doesn't mind but that doesn't make it ok. The real question rn is: Is kiels making refund while breaking his TOS out of the kindness of his heart or just because plutonium is on his ass? My point is while i want to believe that kiels appologie was geniune, i also think it will happened again just because of his weed problem, i can't exacly force him to stop since that his personnal problem but for the 11 month i've been on this server, every stupid decision made by kiels was when he was under the influence, the way i see it, it will happen again one way or another if he doesn't stop

          This post had to been made just to be heard, it was the only way, nobody here want kiels work to disapered since everyone here enjoy his work
          but let's no pretend that he would have made this apologie without this protest (which is what that is)

          P S: Just because someone show good faith doesn't mean all their mistake are forgiven, it wasn't the first time, i still don't think scammer is the right word as that would imply that he did that on purpose but he did screw over people because of his lack of forsight while under the influence

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          • Malyyzundefined Malyyz

            Ultrabars
            I would suggest listening to Xerxes and stop spreading screenshots that aren't true.

            I don't know whether you're arguing this because you're trying to get some praise from Kiels or fellow peers but this needs to end now.

            The punishment has been given out, its a 2 week ban. You're acting like this is a permanent ban. This is just meant to set Kiels straight and give him time to think about does he really want a community, or the money?

            Also, I find it funny how fast you switched sides, maybe delete messages to make your arguments more credible
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            #80

            Malyyz "Spreading screenshots that aren't true." ? Just in case if you didn't know, he wrote all of this within Z-Tavern general chat which is publicly viewable.

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            Your accusations of me trying to get praise from anyone is not true. I'd recommend you not to make false accusations a habit of yours, such behaviour may lead to consequences. Any further replies from individuals outside the Plutonium's staff are deemed unnecessary and an over dramatization of the situation. I believe I have clearly articulated my words to the Plutonium's staff and to you regarding your gaslighting. False accusations are a serious matter, and I suggest you refrain from making them.

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            • Eldorundefined Eldor

              We don't have very strict rules on what people can and can't do within their own communities, and this drama seems to be largely concentrated outside our core community. With that said, we don't want assholes that ruin the fun for others around either, so we'll take a closer look at this.

              What you could do meanwhile, is to chargeback or open disputes for the payments you've sent them (provided it wasn't too long ago), if they indeed have defrauded you.

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              Ultrabars
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              #81

              Eldor May I get access to the guidelines and limitations (policies) for the servers hosters (in game and community) so I can share it to the specific people so that this never happens again about monetization

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              • Ultrabarsundefined Ultrabars

                Malyyz "Spreading screenshots that aren't true." ? Just in case if you didn't know, he wrote all of this within Z-Tavern general chat which is publicly viewable.

                • Here are the bigger pictures attached below
                  Screenshot 2024-05-02 200235.jpg Screenshot 2024-05-02 194909.jpg

                Your accusations of me trying to get praise from anyone is not true. I'd recommend you not to make false accusations a habit of yours, such behaviour may lead to consequences. Any further replies from individuals outside the Plutonium's staff are deemed unnecessary and an over dramatization of the situation. I believe I have clearly articulated my words to the Plutonium's staff and to you regarding your gaslighting. False accusations are a serious matter, and I suggest you refrain from making them.

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                Ultrabars womp womp

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                • Ultrabarsundefined Ultrabars

                  Malyyz "Spreading screenshots that aren't true." ? Just in case if you didn't know, he wrote all of this within Z-Tavern general chat which is publicly viewable.

                  • Here are the bigger pictures attached below
                    Screenshot 2024-05-02 200235.jpg Screenshot 2024-05-02 194909.jpg

                  Your accusations of me trying to get praise from anyone is not true. I'd recommend you not to make false accusations a habit of yours, such behaviour may lead to consequences. Any further replies from individuals outside the Plutonium's staff are deemed unnecessary and an over dramatization of the situation. I believe I have clearly articulated my words to the Plutonium's staff and to you regarding your gaslighting. False accusations are a serious matter, and I suggest you refrain from making them.

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                  Ultrabars General chat is not public, once this drama started you hid the channels for new members

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                    Eldor Making this final post as things have escalated past this point as of today.

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                      Hes like a hemorrhoid attached the ass end of this community. Baseless and frivolous threats of libel to the members who kept money in his pockets.

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                      • a085undefined a085

                        Hes like a hemorrhoid attached the ass end of this community. Baseless and frivolous threats of libel to the members who kept money in his pockets.

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                        a085 dude be careful, you might hear from his lawyer next 😮

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                          #87

                          It saddens me Plutonium is used by such individuals as a 'business'. It goes against the spirit of the project and these empty legal threats are the cherry on the cake. Nothing but a weak attempt to bully people to not speak against him.

                          He only has himself to blame for continually pushing the envelope of monetisation until his community (Or should I say customers) turned against him due to it's predatory nature and now he's mad people are disgruntled.
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                          This man is no better than Activision.

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                            • Lil Stickundefined Lil Stick

                              Ultrabars General chat is not public, once this drama started you hid the channels for new members

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                              Lil Stick kiels hid it, he has no access to the channels

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