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Ivobardolf
There are two types of cheats: public and private. Public cheats are the ones you can find on YouTube or websites like UnknownCheats. Private cheats are a different story.They usually work through subscriptions and are sold through websites or Discord servers. They’re much harder for anti-cheat systems to detect, and they receive constant updates. Just look at the current cheating situation in Apex for context.
So if you see some random guy tracking people through walls, instantly landing headshots, and killing everyone right away, that’s obviously an aimbot.
And about recoil:
‘0 recoil while firing (easily noticeable if you watch the match demo)’
No, demos are not fully synced with the actual game, and you can test it yourself. If you record a demo of your own gameplay, the recoil often won’t appear correctly there. Something similar happens when spectating players, and previous CoD games worked the same way too.
ChosenUndead we are not combating the cheats, we just ban the players who cheat and spread the word, if someone is banned they gonna have to create another account etc.
You can easily spot someone using absolute 0 recoil while firing when watching the demo, you can't replicate it yourself since there will always be some movement that is visible, using 0 recoil the gun doesn't move at all and is just shooting straight
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ChosenUndead we are not combating the cheats, we just ban the players who cheat and spread the word, if someone is banned they gonna have to create another account etc.
You can easily spot someone using absolute 0 recoil while firing when watching the demo, you can't replicate it yourself since there will always be some movement that is visible, using 0 recoil the gun doesn't move at all and is just shooting straight
Ivobardolf
"we are not combating the cheats, we just ban the players who cheat and spread the word, if someone is banned they gonna have to create another account etc."I don’t know what you mean by that, but creating a ‘new’ account is kind of pointless. First of all, because the ban system is based on IPs, so unless you have a dynamic IP or a way to change your public IP, you can’t bypass the ban
"You can easily spot someone using absolute 0 recoil while firing when watching the demo, you can't replicate it yourself since there will always be some movement that is visible, using 0 recoil the gun doesn't move at all and is just shooting straight"
Secondly, yes, you will have recoil in-game, but you won’t see it properly in the demo. And if you don’t believe me, just play a custom game with bots and then watch the demo recording.
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Ivobardolf
"we are not combating the cheats, we just ban the players who cheat and spread the word, if someone is banned they gonna have to create another account etc."I don’t know what you mean by that, but creating a ‘new’ account is kind of pointless. First of all, because the ban system is based on IPs, so unless you have a dynamic IP or a way to change your public IP, you can’t bypass the ban
"You can easily spot someone using absolute 0 recoil while firing when watching the demo, you can't replicate it yourself since there will always be some movement that is visible, using 0 recoil the gun doesn't move at all and is just shooting straight"
Secondly, yes, you will have recoil in-game, but you won’t see it properly in the demo. And if you don’t believe me, just play a custom game with bots and then watch the demo recording.
ChosenUndead good thing that bypassing isn't simple
You need to look at a no recoil demo you will notice it: it's like the regular hacks that shoot across the spawns but only the stable aim no recoil part without the wall hacks or auto shots hitting etc
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ChosenUndead we are not combating the cheats, we just ban the players who cheat and spread the word, if someone is banned they gonna have to create another account etc.
You can easily spot someone using absolute 0 recoil while firing when watching the demo, you can't replicate it yourself since there will always be some movement that is visible, using 0 recoil the gun doesn't move at all and is just shooting straight
Ivobardolf
This is proof of what i'm saingand here is the same of the same gameplay
And in the demo, it looks like there’s no recoil or visual recoil at all.
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Ivobardolf
This is proof of what i'm saingand here is the same of the same gameplay
And in the demo, it looks like there’s no recoil or visual recoil at all.
ChosenUndead good comparison videos!
While it does look no recoil, unless you are able to do this for the whole game that can be 7-10 min+ with 100% consistency,
while the hackers are 100% consistent across the whole game. but you have a point
here is a no recoil hacker shooting from a demo file:
normal speed: https://streamable.com/q9o4f5slowed down to 0.2 in-game: https://streamable.com/xnq2xl
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ChosenUndead good thing that bypassing isn't simple
You need to look at a no recoil demo you will notice it: it's like the regular hacks that shoot across the spawns but only the stable aim no recoil part without the wall hacks or auto shots hitting etc
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ChosenUndead good comparison videos!
While it does look no recoil, unless you are able to do this for the whole game that can be 7-10 min+ with 100% consistency,
while the hackers are 100% consistent across the whole game. but you have a pointhere is a no recoil hacker shooting from a demo file:
normal speed: https://streamable.com/q9o4f5slowed down to 0.2 in-game: https://streamable.com/xnq2xl
Ivobardolf
Recoil control is a thing on video game, and cod have not much recoil in their weapons. -
ChosenUndead good comparison videos!
While it does look no recoil, unless you are able to do this for the whole game that can be 7-10 min+ with 100% consistency,
while the hackers are 100% consistent across the whole game. but you have a pointhere is a no recoil hacker shooting from a demo file:
normal speed: https://streamable.com/q9o4f5slowed down to 0.2 in-game: https://streamable.com/xnq2xl
Ivobardolf
In both videos there is no recoil, and the visual recoil is minimal. In demo files, the viewkick is not recorded, and the amount of recoil and bullet spread shown is minimal. You also haven’t taken into consideration the fact that recoil control is a real skill, which means people learn how to naturally compensate for recoil. -
Ivobardolf
In both videos there is no recoil, and the visual recoil is minimal. In demo files, the viewkick is not recorded, and the amount of recoil and bullet spread shown is minimal. You also haven’t taken into consideration the fact that recoil control is a real skill, which means people learn how to naturally compensate for recoil.ChosenUndead are you talking about the videos i linked?
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ChosenUndead are you talking about the videos i linked?
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ChosenUndead those clips are from a hacker with no recoil
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ChosenUndead those clips are from a hacker with no recoil
Ivobardolf
If you say so, be my guest... 2 seconds of gameplay without context don’t really look like much. -
Ivobardolf
If you say so, be my guest... 2 seconds of gameplay without context don’t really look like much.ChosenUndead where he was shooting, there was someone there behind the cover, no UAV active, that person spawned there and didn't move, many such cases during the match.
also are you saying that his no recoil is doable 100% of the match with no hacks?
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ChosenUndead where he was shooting, there was someone there behind the cover, no UAV active, that person spawned there and didn't move, many such cases during the match.
also are you saying that his no recoil is doable 100% of the match with no hacks?
- Both video files have been deleted now.
- Pre-aiming and pre-firing common spots is a common practice, especially when you’ve played the game for more than 500 hours.
- You also didn’t take into consideration the fact that the game is 13 years old, which means people already know where all the spawn points are.
- “Also, are you saying that his no recoil is doable 100% of the match without hacks?”
In the demo files, the weapon viewkick and some other things are not recorded. You also didn’t take into consideration the fact that demo files are only around 2 MB in size, which means a lot of in-game information is missing.
You can confirm this yourself by doing your own research on Google, since this topic is quite old.
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ChosenUndead where he was shooting, there was someone there behind the cover, no UAV active, that person spawned there and didn't move, many such cases during the match.
also are you saying that his no recoil is doable 100% of the match with no hacks?
Ivobardolf
And just for the record, in the demo gameplay that I uploaded, if you watch it at 0.25x speed, you can clearly see that there is no recoil, and some of the hitboxes are glitchy (around 0:31).So that proves my point. I’m not making this up — it literally gets recorded in the demo.
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- Both video files have been deleted now.
- Pre-aiming and pre-firing common spots is a common practice, especially when you’ve played the game for more than 500 hours.
- You also didn’t take into consideration the fact that the game is 13 years old, which means people already know where all the spawn points are.
- “Also, are you saying that his no recoil is doable 100% of the match without hacks?”
In the demo files, the weapon viewkick and some other things are not recorded. You also didn’t take into consideration the fact that demo files are only around 2 MB in size, which means a lot of in-game information is missing.
You can confirm this yourself by doing your own research on Google, since this topic is quite old.
ChosenUndead
1 - reuploaded the files, gonna keep reuploading them for a while incase someone want to see.2 - pre-aiming and pre-firing is indeed a common practice, but that location is NOT one of the locations you aim at, he was supposed to aim to left of it, be it's obvious he's using a wall hack since he's shooting at a wall thinking he can kill through.
3 - when you are shooting a wall that CAN NOT be shot through from that angle it means you are a hacker and not an old player, shooting at a spawn position that you can't reach is not something players who know the positions do, which is what is the player is doing here
4 - still no answer, he's using AN94 with silencer and red dot, try to replicate what he's doing by standing still and shooting at a point
spotting a recoil hacker is simple, try to replicate it yourself, it is impossible to have no screen shaking or weapon kick like he had here for a whole game
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ChosenUndead
1 - reuploaded the files, gonna keep reuploading them for a while incase someone want to see.2 - pre-aiming and pre-firing is indeed a common practice, but that location is NOT one of the locations you aim at, he was supposed to aim to left of it, be it's obvious he's using a wall hack since he's shooting at a wall thinking he can kill through.
3 - when you are shooting a wall that CAN NOT be shot through from that angle it means you are a hacker and not an old player, shooting at a spawn position that you can't reach is not something players who know the positions do, which is what is the player is doing here
4 - still no answer, he's using AN94 with silencer and red dot, try to replicate what he's doing by standing still and shooting at a point
spotting a recoil hacker is simple, try to replicate it yourself, it is impossible to have no screen shaking or weapon kick like he had here for a whole game
Ivobardolf
I don’t know how you can be convinced by just 0.8 seconds of low-quality “gameplay”.And you don’t even know where all the spawn points on the map are located. I truly hope you can at least upload a full minute of raw gameplay instead of a demo view.
And at a minimum, it should be 720p. Anything lower than that is pointless.
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ChosenUndead
1 - reuploaded the files, gonna keep reuploading them for a while incase someone want to see.2 - pre-aiming and pre-firing is indeed a common practice, but that location is NOT one of the locations you aim at, he was supposed to aim to left of it, be it's obvious he's using a wall hack since he's shooting at a wall thinking he can kill through.
3 - when you are shooting a wall that CAN NOT be shot through from that angle it means you are a hacker and not an old player, shooting at a spawn position that you can't reach is not something players who know the positions do, which is what is the player is doing here
4 - still no answer, he's using AN94 with silencer and red dot, try to replicate what he's doing by standing still and shooting at a point
spotting a recoil hacker is simple, try to replicate it yourself, it is impossible to have no screen shaking or weapon kick like he had here for a whole game
Ivobardolf
Black Ops 2 | 60 Kills on Standoff | Plutonium Gameplay
Here’s some proof of what I said before. I know there’s a spawn point there — I just can’t prove it right now.But in this gameplay, you can clearly see that people are in that spot. It’s a common place to hold, pre-aim, and pre-fire.
You can find the moments at these timestamps:
0:28 and 5:44
ps: The gameplay is not mine
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