Steam Deck Patch
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That's fair enough. I hope it's reconsidered in the future, as I don't think this is unsolvable.
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Everything not mentioned in the system requirements is not supported and does not get tested. Hence why it can break at any time. We are not a tripple (or quadruple
) A studio / publisher that can afford 200 different test set-ups. The issue also lies somewhere in between since wine simply returns garbage for a lot of values.Xerxes Moron, Plutonium runs fine. The problem is you banning random people with flawed Anti-Cheat, and the OFFICIAL ADVICE FOR DEALING WITH IT (until it got deleted? Been a while.) was to SPOOF MY HARDWARE AND BYPASS THE BAN. Massive lol.
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Xerxes Moron, Plutonium runs fine. The problem is you banning random people with flawed Anti-Cheat, and the OFFICIAL ADVICE FOR DEALING WITH IT (until it got deleted? Been a while.) was to SPOOF MY HARDWARE AND BYPASS THE BAN. Massive lol.
Black Lament Plutonium is a free project, so they don't really have to do your bidding. Almost most of the bans are done by the anticheat. People not reading the anticheat or not researching thoroughly. The reason why Steam Decks are getting banned is because they have similar hardware/hwid. Someone decided to cheat on the steam deck, which ruined the experience for others. I don't think they'll be lifting it anytime soon as it's a security/cheater risk. So, technically this isn't the plutonium team fault but the community or that person fault who decided to cheat on a steam deck.
In short, steam decks works fine but isn't technically supported, however someone decided to cheat and ruin the experience for other steam deck players. -
Xerxes Moron, Plutonium runs fine. The problem is you banning random people with flawed Anti-Cheat, and the OFFICIAL ADVICE FOR DEALING WITH IT (until it got deleted? Been a while.) was to SPOOF MY HARDWARE AND BYPASS THE BAN. Massive lol.
Black Lament The Anti-Cheat may be flawed in its sense of compatibility with the steam-deck. But you need to keep in mind, this is an in-house Anti-Cheat. They made it themselves, and it had came before the steam-deck was even remotely popular among the tech community. So there was never expectations for it to not be supported by HWID misconfiguration.
As disappointing as it is to not be able to play projects like this because of these reasons, it is within understanding since they are a very small team. When larger company's (ones like Larian-Studios, Take-Two, Pearl Abyss etc) even struggle with general Linux compatibility, I wouldn't imagine it to be a feasible task for Plutonium on-top of any roadmap they have most likely been planning out at the moment.
There has always been talk of supporting the steam-deck, maybe one day Eldor will flip a switch and decide to start working on the AC for compatibility, and maybe he never will. Regardless acting like this doesn't help, I personally wouldn't want to add support to a community that acts self entitled. No one in Plutonium is telling you to install a whole new OS to play, it is just simply that they are only able to guarantee (as said by Xerxes) support on the hardware they can test it on effectively. Also as he said, Wine is always changing, it's still missing A TON of Windows Calls, Hooks, userbehavior, not to mention general differences in user/sys space.
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Its been how long, 3 years? And yall refuse to do anything about it? i understand to an extent after going through a bunch of different threads and shit, but the launcher works on the oled model just fine due to diff hwid. have you had any hackers since then? and if so why does the oled model work? I get yall are a community ran project, and i absolutely love what yall have done for these games, but why not try and do something about your anitcheat so all steam deck users can enjoy their classics in the safest way? and lets be honest, what are the odds of somebody trying to hack the game or whatver happened that caused this ban, happeing again. and if so hardware ban the guy. fix the anticheat.
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Its been how long, 3 years? And yall refuse to do anything about it? i understand to an extent after going through a bunch of different threads and shit, but the launcher works on the oled model just fine due to diff hwid. have you had any hackers since then? and if so why does the oled model work? I get yall are a community ran project, and i absolutely love what yall have done for these games, but why not try and do something about your anitcheat so all steam deck users can enjoy their classics in the safest way? and lets be honest, what are the odds of somebody trying to hack the game or whatver happened that caused this ban, happeing again. and if so hardware ban the guy. fix the anticheat.
Journeys3nd said in Steam Deck Patch:
what are the odds of somebody trying to hack the game or whatver happened that caused this ban, happeing again.
100,000 to 1 odds!!!
i would bet a month's paycheck that within 1 day of unbanning it, it would be banned again.
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Journeys3nd said in Steam Deck Patch:
what are the odds of somebody trying to hack the game or whatver happened that caused this ban, happeing again.
100,000 to 1 odds!!!
i would bet a month's paycheck that within 1 day of unbanning it, it would be banned again.
DirkRockface okay well let's look at the iw4x client (I think thats what its called). I am able to play that on the deck, no problem. So whats the difference? Why should deck users be punished for one bad actor? Its the fact that they use a flawed anti cheat system. Instead of banning every steam deck user from playing just ban that person specifically. I believe its just pure laziness.
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DirkRockface okay well let's look at the iw4x client (I think thats what its called). I am able to play that on the deck, no problem. So whats the difference? Why should deck users be punished for one bad actor? Its the fact that they use a flawed anti cheat system. Instead of banning every steam deck user from playing just ban that person specifically. I believe its just pure laziness.
Journeys3nd oh i'm not arguing why it is the way it is, i was just answering your question about what the odds are that it would happen again...
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Journeys3nd oh i'm not arguing why it is the way it is, i was just answering your question about what the odds are that it would happen again...
DirkRockface my fault lol. Misread it. But might as well get that info out there for moderators to see.
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My friend was running on a SteamDeck and was hit with this and... wow... just wow. IDK if he's permanently banned because of this or what, but if you know there's a problem with HWID's being the same, in the AC you make, and you refuse to solve the issue, why would you not preemptively warn that you can't run it?
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My friend was running on a SteamDeck and was hit with this and... wow... just wow. IDK if he's permanently banned because of this or what, but if you know there's a problem with HWID's being the same, in the AC you make, and you refuse to solve the issue, why would you not preemptively warn that you can't run it?
DanHolli said in Steam Deck Patch:
why would you not preemptively warn that you can't run it?
For the same reason that they don't preemptively warn that plutonium can't run on a toaster... or a raspberry pi.
There are lots of non-officially supported ways to get plutonium running on different platforms / Operation Systems but you won't find warnings or guides on the official site about those because they don't support those. You WILL find guides and warnings (like it not working on SteamDeck) on the forums... a quick little search before hand would have easily pointed that out
Plutonium officially supports windows and sticks to talking about that on it's official site/install guides.
