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Why Is Playing on Steam Deck A Bannable Offense?

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  • Xerxesundefined Offline
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    Xerxes
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    Playing on a Steam Deck isn't a bannable offensive, however iiric it will link your account to a HWID of a cheater which then prevents you from playing.

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    • Mr. Androidundefined Offline
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      wrote on last edited by Mr. Android
      #4

      Exactly what these guys said. It's not that we hate SteamDeck users or anything, It's that somebody on a steam deck decided to try and hack. Steam deck's it turns out have near identical hardware identifiers. So anybody else who tries to use one outside of LAN mode will been seen by the anticheat as having made an alt account to bypass their ban and thus are re-banned.

      Basically - cheaters fault for ruining it for everyone. Valve has some fault too, it's idiotic to release hardware that matches every single other bit of hardware.

      Our warning on your thread was an attempt to avoid people accidentally getting themselves banned.

      Edit: And to answer the inevitable question, no we will no re-write our entire anticheat just so a small section of gamers can use a steamdeck to play Plutonium. It's not an officially supported platform by us.

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      • Mr. Androidundefined Mr. Android

        Exactly what these guys said. It's not that we hate SteamDeck users or anything, It's that somebody on a steam deck decided to try and hack. Steam deck's it turns out have near identical hardware identifiers. So anybody else who tries to use one outside of LAN mode will been seen by the anticheat as having made an alt account to bypass their ban and thus are re-banned.

        Basically - cheaters fault for ruining it for everyone. Valve has some fault too, it's idiotic to release hardware that matches every single other bit of hardware.

        Our warning on your thread was an attempt to avoid people accidentally getting themselves banned.

        Edit: And to answer the inevitable question, no we will no re-write our entire anticheat just so a small section of gamers can use a steamdeck to play Plutonium. It's not an officially supported platform by us.

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        #5

        @Mr-Android Oh okay, I think I understand now. So basically Steam Decks have the same or similar HWIDs, which in turn, prevents users from playing

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        • WIFI Darth Maulundefined WIFI Darth Maul

          @Mr-Android Oh okay, I think I understand now. So basically Steam Decks have the same or similar HWIDs, which in turn, prevents users from playing

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          #6

          WIFI Darth Maul Exactly mate.

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          • Mr. Androidundefined Mr. Android

            WIFI Darth Maul Exactly mate.

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            @Mr-Android said in Why Is Playing on Steam Deck A Bannable Offense?:

            WIFI Darth Maul Exactly mate.

            Thanks for the clarification. I played BO2 on the Deck multiplayer about a month ago for about a week or so straight, and after seeing this was worried I would be banned. Would it still be safe to play offline in LAN mode?

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              wrote on last edited by RedxSkull
              #8

              Friend of mine is able to use Steam Deck on plutonium just fine, but he uses windows 11 OS with latest drivers updated. Perhaps you guys should try it out and you can dual boot the OS

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              • WIFI Darth Maulundefined WIFI Darth Maul

                @Mr-Android said in Why Is Playing on Steam Deck A Bannable Offense?:

                WIFI Darth Maul Exactly mate.

                Thanks for the clarification. I played BO2 on the Deck multiplayer about a month ago for about a week or so straight, and after seeing this was worried I would be banned. Would it still be safe to play offline in LAN mode?

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                WIFI Darth Maul Yes LAN mode is safe as it disables to anticheat.

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                • KingVon2501undefined Offline
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                  ngl it sounds pretty retarded to not use an account based system as opposed to HWID

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                  • KingVon2501undefined KingVon2501

                    ngl it sounds pretty retarded to not use an account based system as opposed to HWID

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                    KingVon2501 said in Why Is Playing on Steam Deck A Bannable Offense?:

                    ngl it sounds pretty retarded to not use an account based system as opposed to HWID

                    im pretty sure its to prevent cheaters from making alt accounts to evade a ban, but from the way you worded your post, and the fact your account is brand new. ill just assume youre mad about a ban

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                    • Mr. Androidundefined Mr. Android

                      Exactly what these guys said. It's not that we hate SteamDeck users or anything, It's that somebody on a steam deck decided to try and hack. Steam deck's it turns out have near identical hardware identifiers. So anybody else who tries to use one outside of LAN mode will been seen by the anticheat as having made an alt account to bypass their ban and thus are re-banned.

                      Basically - cheaters fault for ruining it for everyone. Valve has some fault too, it's idiotic to release hardware that matches every single other bit of hardware.

                      Our warning on your thread was an attempt to avoid people accidentally getting themselves banned.

                      Edit: And to answer the inevitable question, no we will no re-write our entire anticheat just so a small section of gamers can use a steamdeck to play Plutonium. It's not an officially supported platform by us.

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                      @Mr-Android

                      So you detail exactly why your anti-cheat is broken and bans people falsely, then follow that up with saying you're not going to fix it? Why even join this project if you're going to ignore part of the community because they aren't a big enough player base? Might as well go get a job at Activision if numbers are really all that matter. Fix your anti-cheat.

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                      • Black Lamentundefined Black Lament

                        @Mr-Android

                        So you detail exactly why your anti-cheat is broken and bans people falsely, then follow that up with saying you're not going to fix it? Why even join this project if you're going to ignore part of the community because they aren't a big enough player base? Might as well go get a job at Activision if numbers are really all that matter. Fix your anti-cheat.

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                        Black Lament
                        Why did you necro a year old thread to cry?
                        It's a community project for christ sake lmao, be glad it exists at all.

                        Did you even try the suggestion RedxSkull made before throwing a tantrum?
                        Could even try spoofing your own HWIDs; try doing something yourself rather than demand shit.

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                        • freestylehdundefined freestylehd

                          Black Lament
                          Why did you necro a year old thread to cry?
                          It's a community project for christ sake lmao, be glad it exists at all.

                          Did you even try the suggestion RedxSkull made before throwing a tantrum?
                          Could even try spoofing your own HWIDs; try doing something yourself rather than demand shit.

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                          freestylehd
                          Dude his suggestion is to download an entirely new operating system. And your suggestion is to bypass the ban by spoofing my hardware. What use is the anti-cheat even if one can just bypass it like that anyway? What's stopping the cheater from doing so? There's no reason to defend a broken anti-cheat simply because it doesn't affect you.

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